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From the book “All Hell Let Loose” by Max Hastings. The writer mentions about the condition of British farmers during WWII. Quote “farmers sent away their hunters to be trained for harness work. Many riding horses took badly to this humble duty, but Street’s Jorrocks’ trotted home like a gentleman.” unquote










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    Presumably its a horse named "Jarrocks" owned by a farmer whose last name is "Street".
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  • @T.E.D. A special kind of horse which deserves a special mention ? Was it a racing horse ?
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    It could be that the author just included the names to personalize the account somewhat. Make it relatable for people who find generalized historical discussion boring. Some historical writers like to do that (I'm not one who needs or likes this writing style, but I've seen it). Or you could be right that they are ultimately of some further importance to the narrative. Its hard to say without more context.
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    This online version of the text has a different version: "Wiltshire farmer Arthur Street ploughed up his grassland as the government ordered, and sent away his beloved hunter to be trained for harness work. Many riding horses took badly to this humble duty, but Street’s ‘Jorrocks’ ‘trotted home like a gentleman’ ...", which makes it clear.
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    The Italian version has the same wording as the online version above, so I suspect that the edition you have was the victim of some careless editing at some point in its history!
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From the book “All Hell Let Loose” by Max Hastings. The writer mentions about the condition of British farmers during WWII. Quote “farmers sent away their hunters to be trained for harness work. Many riding horses took badly to this humble duty, but Street’s Jorrocks’ trotted home like a gentleman.” unquote










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    It could be that the author just included the names to personalize the account somewhat. Make it relatable for people who find generalized historical discussion boring. Some historical writers like to do that (I'm not one who needs or likes this writing style, but I've seen it). Or you could be right that they are ultimately of some further importance to the narrative. Its hard to say without more context.
    – T.E.D.
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    This online version of the text has a different version: "Wiltshire farmer Arthur Street ploughed up his grassland as the government ordered, and sent away his beloved hunter to be trained for harness work. Many riding horses took badly to this humble duty, but Street’s ‘Jorrocks’ ‘trotted home like a gentleman’ ...", which makes it clear.
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    The Italian version has the same wording as the online version above, so I suspect that the edition you have was the victim of some careless editing at some point in its history!
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From the book “All Hell Let Loose” by Max Hastings. The writer mentions about the condition of British farmers during WWII. Quote “farmers sent away their hunters to be trained for harness work. Many riding horses took badly to this humble duty, but Street’s Jorrocks’ trotted home like a gentleman.” unquote










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    Presumably its a horse named "Jarrocks" owned by a farmer whose last name is "Street".
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  • @T.E.D. A special kind of horse which deserves a special mention ? Was it a racing horse ?
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    It could be that the author just included the names to personalize the account somewhat. Make it relatable for people who find generalized historical discussion boring. Some historical writers like to do that (I'm not one who needs or likes this writing style, but I've seen it). Or you could be right that they are ultimately of some further importance to the narrative. Its hard to say without more context.
    – T.E.D.
    3 hours ago








  • 2




    This online version of the text has a different version: "Wiltshire farmer Arthur Street ploughed up his grassland as the government ordered, and sent away his beloved hunter to be trained for harness work. Many riding horses took badly to this humble duty, but Street’s ‘Jorrocks’ ‘trotted home like a gentleman’ ...", which makes it clear.
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    The Italian version has the same wording as the online version above, so I suspect that the edition you have was the victim of some careless editing at some point in its history!
    – sempaiscuba
    1 hour ago
















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    Presumably its a horse named "Jarrocks" owned by a farmer whose last name is "Street".
    – T.E.D.
    3 hours ago












  • @T.E.D. A special kind of horse which deserves a special mention ? Was it a racing horse ?
    – Noeshel
    3 hours ago






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    It could be that the author just included the names to personalize the account somewhat. Make it relatable for people who find generalized historical discussion boring. Some historical writers like to do that (I'm not one who needs or likes this writing style, but I've seen it). Or you could be right that they are ultimately of some further importance to the narrative. Its hard to say without more context.
    – T.E.D.
    3 hours ago








  • 2




    This online version of the text has a different version: "Wiltshire farmer Arthur Street ploughed up his grassland as the government ordered, and sent away his beloved hunter to be trained for harness work. Many riding horses took badly to this humble duty, but Street’s ‘Jorrocks’ ‘trotted home like a gentleman’ ...", which makes it clear.
    – sempaiscuba
    1 hour ago








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    The Italian version has the same wording as the online version above, so I suspect that the edition you have was the victim of some careless editing at some point in its history!
    – sempaiscuba
    1 hour ago










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Presumably its a horse named "Jarrocks" owned by a farmer whose last name is "Street".
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Presumably its a horse named "Jarrocks" owned by a farmer whose last name is "Street".
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@T.E.D. A special kind of horse which deserves a special mention ? Was it a racing horse ?
– Noeshel
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@T.E.D. A special kind of horse which deserves a special mention ? Was it a racing horse ?
– Noeshel
3 hours ago




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It could be that the author just included the names to personalize the account somewhat. Make it relatable for people who find generalized historical discussion boring. Some historical writers like to do that (I'm not one who needs or likes this writing style, but I've seen it). Or you could be right that they are ultimately of some further importance to the narrative. Its hard to say without more context.
– T.E.D.
3 hours ago






It could be that the author just included the names to personalize the account somewhat. Make it relatable for people who find generalized historical discussion boring. Some historical writers like to do that (I'm not one who needs or likes this writing style, but I've seen it). Or you could be right that they are ultimately of some further importance to the narrative. Its hard to say without more context.
– T.E.D.
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This online version of the text has a different version: "Wiltshire farmer Arthur Street ploughed up his grassland as the government ordered, and sent away his beloved hunter to be trained for harness work. Many riding horses took badly to this humble duty, but Street’s ‘Jorrocks’ ‘trotted home like a gentleman’ ...", which makes it clear.
– sempaiscuba
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This online version of the text has a different version: "Wiltshire farmer Arthur Street ploughed up his grassland as the government ordered, and sent away his beloved hunter to be trained for harness work. Many riding horses took badly to this humble duty, but Street’s ‘Jorrocks’ ‘trotted home like a gentleman’ ...", which makes it clear.
– sempaiscuba
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The Italian version has the same wording as the online version above, so I suspect that the edition you have was the victim of some careless editing at some point in its history!
– sempaiscuba
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The Italian version has the same wording as the online version above, so I suspect that the edition you have was the victim of some careless editing at some point in its history!
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T.E.D. is right here. It is mentioned that Jorrocks "trotted home". A "trot" is a type of horse gait. Therefore, Jorrocks is most likely a horse, and presumably Street was the owner of Jorrocks.



Jorrocks is actually a somewhat famous horse name (the name of a famous racing horse), so it makes sense as a horse name (though the original would have been long dead by WW2). I also note the extra apostrophe after "Jorrocks". It could be a typo.






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    It is possible that the famous horse Jorrocks (foaled in 1833) was named after a character Jorrocks in the humorous stories by R. S. Surtees, starting from the 1831 issue of The New Sporting Magazine (babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/…) on page 177.
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farmers sent away their hunters to be trained for harness work. Many
riding horses took badly to this humble duty, but Street’s Jorrocks
trotted home like a gentleman.




This is presumably simply a real-world example of a farmer and his horse, of the type he's talking about. In this case the farmer's surname is "Street", and the horse's name is "Jarrocks".



Most likely the author just included the names to personalize the account somewhat. Make it relatable for people who find generalized historical discussion boring. Some historical writers like to do that. I'm not one who needs or likes this writing style, but I've seen it.



Given what Wikipedia has to say about this book's writing style, you should probably expect rather a lot of this:




All Hell Let Loose covers the entire span of World War II, following
the military developments of the war but focusing on the reactions and
experiences of different individuals
(both uniformed and civilian).
Reviews refer to the book as an "everyman's story" made up of accounts
from those with lesser roles
in the conflict; "ranging from ship's
cooks to wireless operators, farmers and housewives to typists and
black marketeers."



The book addresses several "triumphalist" aspects of written war
history by focusing on the "misery, heroism and endurance" of
individual accounts




(emphasis mine)



I haven't read this particular book, so I can only say that I hope he pulls this off better than the authors I have read who did this. In bad cases it reads like something a history-hating editor forced the author to go back and tack in everywhere.






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    T.E.D. is right here. It is mentioned that Jorrocks "trotted home". A "trot" is a type of horse gait. Therefore, Jorrocks is most likely a horse, and presumably Street was the owner of Jorrocks.



    Jorrocks is actually a somewhat famous horse name (the name of a famous racing horse), so it makes sense as a horse name (though the original would have been long dead by WW2). I also note the extra apostrophe after "Jorrocks". It could be a typo.






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    • I was unaware of Street being a surname in the U.K and therefore it sounded unusual. You are right, the apostrophe after Jorrocks is a typo, it is mentioned as ‘Street’s Jorrocks.’
      – Noeshel
      3 hours ago






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      It is possible that the famous horse Jorrocks (foaled in 1833) was named after a character Jorrocks in the humorous stories by R. S. Surtees, starting from the 1831 issue of The New Sporting Magazine (babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/…) on page 177.
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    T.E.D. is right here. It is mentioned that Jorrocks "trotted home". A "trot" is a type of horse gait. Therefore, Jorrocks is most likely a horse, and presumably Street was the owner of Jorrocks.



    Jorrocks is actually a somewhat famous horse name (the name of a famous racing horse), so it makes sense as a horse name (though the original would have been long dead by WW2). I also note the extra apostrophe after "Jorrocks". It could be a typo.






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    • I was unaware of Street being a surname in the U.K and therefore it sounded unusual. You are right, the apostrophe after Jorrocks is a typo, it is mentioned as ‘Street’s Jorrocks.’
      – Noeshel
      3 hours ago






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      It is possible that the famous horse Jorrocks (foaled in 1833) was named after a character Jorrocks in the humorous stories by R. S. Surtees, starting from the 1831 issue of The New Sporting Magazine (babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/…) on page 177.
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    T.E.D. is right here. It is mentioned that Jorrocks "trotted home". A "trot" is a type of horse gait. Therefore, Jorrocks is most likely a horse, and presumably Street was the owner of Jorrocks.



    Jorrocks is actually a somewhat famous horse name (the name of a famous racing horse), so it makes sense as a horse name (though the original would have been long dead by WW2). I also note the extra apostrophe after "Jorrocks". It could be a typo.






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    T.E.D. is right here. It is mentioned that Jorrocks "trotted home". A "trot" is a type of horse gait. Therefore, Jorrocks is most likely a horse, and presumably Street was the owner of Jorrocks.



    Jorrocks is actually a somewhat famous horse name (the name of a famous racing horse), so it makes sense as a horse name (though the original would have been long dead by WW2). I also note the extra apostrophe after "Jorrocks". It could be a typo.







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    • I was unaware of Street being a surname in the U.K and therefore it sounded unusual. You are right, the apostrophe after Jorrocks is a typo, it is mentioned as ‘Street’s Jorrocks.’
      – Noeshel
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      It is possible that the famous horse Jorrocks (foaled in 1833) was named after a character Jorrocks in the humorous stories by R. S. Surtees, starting from the 1831 issue of The New Sporting Magazine (babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/…) on page 177.
      – kimchi lover
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    • I was unaware of Street being a surname in the U.K and therefore it sounded unusual. You are right, the apostrophe after Jorrocks is a typo, it is mentioned as ‘Street’s Jorrocks.’
      – Noeshel
      3 hours ago






    • 1




      It is possible that the famous horse Jorrocks (foaled in 1833) was named after a character Jorrocks in the humorous stories by R. S. Surtees, starting from the 1831 issue of The New Sporting Magazine (babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/…) on page 177.
      – kimchi lover
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    I was unaware of Street being a surname in the U.K and therefore it sounded unusual. You are right, the apostrophe after Jorrocks is a typo, it is mentioned as ‘Street’s Jorrocks.’
    – Noeshel
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    I was unaware of Street being a surname in the U.K and therefore it sounded unusual. You are right, the apostrophe after Jorrocks is a typo, it is mentioned as ‘Street’s Jorrocks.’
    – Noeshel
    3 hours ago




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    It is possible that the famous horse Jorrocks (foaled in 1833) was named after a character Jorrocks in the humorous stories by R. S. Surtees, starting from the 1831 issue of The New Sporting Magazine (babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/…) on page 177.
    – kimchi lover
    1 hour ago






    It is possible that the famous horse Jorrocks (foaled in 1833) was named after a character Jorrocks in the humorous stories by R. S. Surtees, starting from the 1831 issue of The New Sporting Magazine (babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/…) on page 177.
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    farmers sent away their hunters to be trained for harness work. Many
    riding horses took badly to this humble duty, but Street’s Jorrocks
    trotted home like a gentleman.




    This is presumably simply a real-world example of a farmer and his horse, of the type he's talking about. In this case the farmer's surname is "Street", and the horse's name is "Jarrocks".



    Most likely the author just included the names to personalize the account somewhat. Make it relatable for people who find generalized historical discussion boring. Some historical writers like to do that. I'm not one who needs or likes this writing style, but I've seen it.



    Given what Wikipedia has to say about this book's writing style, you should probably expect rather a lot of this:




    All Hell Let Loose covers the entire span of World War II, following
    the military developments of the war but focusing on the reactions and
    experiences of different individuals
    (both uniformed and civilian).
    Reviews refer to the book as an "everyman's story" made up of accounts
    from those with lesser roles
    in the conflict; "ranging from ship's
    cooks to wireless operators, farmers and housewives to typists and
    black marketeers."



    The book addresses several "triumphalist" aspects of written war
    history by focusing on the "misery, heroism and endurance" of
    individual accounts




    (emphasis mine)



    I haven't read this particular book, so I can only say that I hope he pulls this off better than the authors I have read who did this. In bad cases it reads like something a history-hating editor forced the author to go back and tack in everywhere.






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      farmers sent away their hunters to be trained for harness work. Many
      riding horses took badly to this humble duty, but Street’s Jorrocks
      trotted home like a gentleman.




      This is presumably simply a real-world example of a farmer and his horse, of the type he's talking about. In this case the farmer's surname is "Street", and the horse's name is "Jarrocks".



      Most likely the author just included the names to personalize the account somewhat. Make it relatable for people who find generalized historical discussion boring. Some historical writers like to do that. I'm not one who needs or likes this writing style, but I've seen it.



      Given what Wikipedia has to say about this book's writing style, you should probably expect rather a lot of this:




      All Hell Let Loose covers the entire span of World War II, following
      the military developments of the war but focusing on the reactions and
      experiences of different individuals
      (both uniformed and civilian).
      Reviews refer to the book as an "everyman's story" made up of accounts
      from those with lesser roles
      in the conflict; "ranging from ship's
      cooks to wireless operators, farmers and housewives to typists and
      black marketeers."



      The book addresses several "triumphalist" aspects of written war
      history by focusing on the "misery, heroism and endurance" of
      individual accounts




      (emphasis mine)



      I haven't read this particular book, so I can only say that I hope he pulls this off better than the authors I have read who did this. In bad cases it reads like something a history-hating editor forced the author to go back and tack in everywhere.






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        farmers sent away their hunters to be trained for harness work. Many
        riding horses took badly to this humble duty, but Street’s Jorrocks
        trotted home like a gentleman.




        This is presumably simply a real-world example of a farmer and his horse, of the type he's talking about. In this case the farmer's surname is "Street", and the horse's name is "Jarrocks".



        Most likely the author just included the names to personalize the account somewhat. Make it relatable for people who find generalized historical discussion boring. Some historical writers like to do that. I'm not one who needs or likes this writing style, but I've seen it.



        Given what Wikipedia has to say about this book's writing style, you should probably expect rather a lot of this:




        All Hell Let Loose covers the entire span of World War II, following
        the military developments of the war but focusing on the reactions and
        experiences of different individuals
        (both uniformed and civilian).
        Reviews refer to the book as an "everyman's story" made up of accounts
        from those with lesser roles
        in the conflict; "ranging from ship's
        cooks to wireless operators, farmers and housewives to typists and
        black marketeers."



        The book addresses several "triumphalist" aspects of written war
        history by focusing on the "misery, heroism and endurance" of
        individual accounts




        (emphasis mine)



        I haven't read this particular book, so I can only say that I hope he pulls this off better than the authors I have read who did this. In bad cases it reads like something a history-hating editor forced the author to go back and tack in everywhere.






        share|improve this answer












        This got to be a bit long for comments, so I'm moving the content here.




        farmers sent away their hunters to be trained for harness work. Many
        riding horses took badly to this humble duty, but Street’s Jorrocks
        trotted home like a gentleman.




        This is presumably simply a real-world example of a farmer and his horse, of the type he's talking about. In this case the farmer's surname is "Street", and the horse's name is "Jarrocks".



        Most likely the author just included the names to personalize the account somewhat. Make it relatable for people who find generalized historical discussion boring. Some historical writers like to do that. I'm not one who needs or likes this writing style, but I've seen it.



        Given what Wikipedia has to say about this book's writing style, you should probably expect rather a lot of this:




        All Hell Let Loose covers the entire span of World War II, following
        the military developments of the war but focusing on the reactions and
        experiences of different individuals
        (both uniformed and civilian).
        Reviews refer to the book as an "everyman's story" made up of accounts
        from those with lesser roles
        in the conflict; "ranging from ship's
        cooks to wireless operators, farmers and housewives to typists and
        black marketeers."



        The book addresses several "triumphalist" aspects of written war
        history by focusing on the "misery, heroism and endurance" of
        individual accounts




        (emphasis mine)



        I haven't read this particular book, so I can only say that I hope he pulls this off better than the authors I have read who did this. In bad cases it reads like something a history-hating editor forced the author to go back and tack in everywhere.







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