Draw offer without executing move
Scenario: It's Player A's move, and without executing a move he offers a draw. Player B replies "Please make a move". Player A then makes a move, where upon player B says: "Ok, I accept". Is it now possible for Player A to say that the draw offer no longer stands, and was in fact nullified when it was not originally accepted during the period between the offer and the move that Player A did?
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Scenario: It's Player A's move, and without executing a move he offers a draw. Player B replies "Please make a move". Player A then makes a move, where upon player B says: "Ok, I accept". Is it now possible for Player A to say that the draw offer no longer stands, and was in fact nullified when it was not originally accepted during the period between the offer and the move that Player A did?
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Scenario: It's Player A's move, and without executing a move he offers a draw. Player B replies "Please make a move". Player A then makes a move, where upon player B says: "Ok, I accept". Is it now possible for Player A to say that the draw offer no longer stands, and was in fact nullified when it was not originally accepted during the period between the offer and the move that Player A did?
rules draw
asked 17 hours ago
acye
476111
Scenario: It's Player A's move, and without executing a move he offers a draw. Player B replies "Please make a move". Player A then makes a move, where upon player B says: "Ok, I accept". Is it now possible for Player A to say that the draw offer no longer stands, and was in fact nullified when it was not originally accepted during the period between the offer and the move that Player A did?
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asked 17 hours ago
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asked 17 hours ago
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No, Player A cannot do this. FIDE rules of chess article 9.1.1:
A player wishing to offer a draw shall do so after having made a move on the
chessboard and before stopping his clock and starting the opponent’s clock.
An offer at any other time during play is still valid but Article 12.6 must be
considered. No conditions can be attached to the offer. In both cases the offer
cannot be withdrawn and remains valid until the opponent accepts it, rejects
it orally, rejects it by touching a piece with the intention of moving or
capturing it, or the game is concluded in some other way.
Key parts highlighted. Player A made the draw offer at one of these "other times", so it's still valid and cannot be withdrawn. Player B asking player A to make a move, and player A actually making a move, are not one of the four actions that can terminate the draw offer, so the offer remains valid.
answered 16 hours ago
Allure
995215
What if the move Player A made was to checkmate Player B? I assume that would be covered under "the game is concluded in some other way" and thus the draw would automatically be rescinded?
– Michael
11 hours ago
@Michael To be honest I don't know, but it sounds like it, although obviously player B is going to accept before getting checkmated.
– Allure
10 hours ago
1
Checkmate immediately ends the game. You can't accept a draw offer after you've been mated. Stalemate also immediately ends the game.
– itub
10 hours ago
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No, Player A cannot do this. FIDE rules of chess article 9.1.1:
A player wishing to offer a draw shall do so after having made a move on the
chessboard and before stopping his clock and starting the opponent’s clock.
An offer at any other time during play is still valid but Article 12.6 must be
considered. No conditions can be attached to the offer. In both cases the offer
cannot be withdrawn and remains valid until the opponent accepts it, rejects
it orally, rejects it by touching a piece with the intention of moving or
capturing it, or the game is concluded in some other way.
Key parts highlighted. Player A made the draw offer at one of these "other times", so it's still valid and cannot be withdrawn. Player B asking player A to make a move, and player A actually making a move, are not one of the four actions that can terminate the draw offer, so the offer remains valid.
answered 16 hours ago
Allure
995215
What if the move Player A made was to checkmate Player B? I assume that would be covered under "the game is concluded in some other way" and thus the draw would automatically be rescinded?
– Michael
11 hours ago
@Michael To be honest I don't know, but it sounds like it, although obviously player B is going to accept before getting checkmated.
– Allure
10 hours ago
1
Checkmate immediately ends the game. You can't accept a draw offer after you've been mated. Stalemate also immediately ends the game.
– itub
10 hours ago
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No, Player A cannot do this. FIDE rules of chess article 9.1.1:
A player wishing to offer a draw shall do so after having made a move on the
chessboard and before stopping his clock and starting the opponent’s clock.
An offer at any other time during play is still valid but Article 12.6 must be
considered. No conditions can be attached to the offer. In both cases the offer
cannot be withdrawn and remains valid until the opponent accepts it, rejects
it orally, rejects it by touching a piece with the intention of moving or
capturing it, or the game is concluded in some other way.
Key parts highlighted. Player A made the draw offer at one of these "other times", so it's still valid and cannot be withdrawn. Player B asking player A to make a move, and player A actually making a move, are not one of the four actions that can terminate the draw offer, so the offer remains valid.
answered 16 hours ago
Allure
995215
What if the move Player A made was to checkmate Player B? I assume that would be covered under "the game is concluded in some other way" and thus the draw would automatically be rescinded?
– Michael
11 hours ago
@Michael To be honest I don't know, but it sounds like it, although obviously player B is going to accept before getting checkmated.
– Allure
10 hours ago
1
Checkmate immediately ends the game. You can't accept a draw offer after you've been mated. Stalemate also immediately ends the game.
– itub
10 hours ago
add a comment |
No, Player A cannot do this. FIDE rules of chess article 9.1.1:
A player wishing to offer a draw shall do so after having made a move on the
chessboard and before stopping his clock and starting the opponent’s clock.
An offer at any other time during play is still valid but Article 12.6 must be
considered. No conditions can be attached to the offer. In both cases the offer
cannot be withdrawn and remains valid until the opponent accepts it, rejects
it orally, rejects it by touching a piece with the intention of moving or
capturing it, or the game is concluded in some other way.
Key parts highlighted. Player A made the draw offer at one of these "other times", so it's still valid and cannot be withdrawn. Player B asking player A to make a move, and player A actually making a move, are not one of the four actions that can terminate the draw offer, so the offer remains valid.
answered 16 hours ago
Allure
995215
No, Player A cannot do this. FIDE rules of chess article 9.1.1:
A player wishing to offer a draw shall do so after having made a move on the
chessboard and before stopping his clock and starting the opponent’s clock.
An offer at any other time during play is still valid but Article 12.6 must be
considered. No conditions can be attached to the offer. In both cases the offer
cannot be withdrawn and remains valid until the opponent accepts it, rejects
it orally, rejects it by touching a piece with the intention of moving or
capturing it, or the game is concluded in some other way.
Key parts highlighted. Player A made the draw offer at one of these "other times", so it's still valid and cannot be withdrawn. Player B asking player A to make a move, and player A actually making a move, are not one of the four actions that can terminate the draw offer, so the offer remains valid.
answered 16 hours ago
Allure
995215
answered 16 hours ago
Allure
995215
answered 16 hours ago
Allure
995215
answered 16 hours ago
Allure
995215
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What if the move Player A made was to checkmate Player B? I assume that would be covered under "the game is concluded in some other way" and thus the draw would automatically be rescinded?
– Michael
11 hours ago
@Michael To be honest I don't know, but it sounds like it, although obviously player B is going to accept before getting checkmated.
– Allure
10 hours ago
1
Checkmate immediately ends the game. You can't accept a draw offer after you've been mated. Stalemate also immediately ends the game.
– itub
10 hours ago
add a comment |
What if the move Player A made was to checkmate Player B? I assume that would be covered under "the game is concluded in some other way" and thus the draw would automatically be rescinded?
– Michael
11 hours ago
@Michael To be honest I don't know, but it sounds like it, although obviously player B is going to accept before getting checkmated.
– Allure
10 hours ago
1
Checkmate immediately ends the game. You can't accept a draw offer after you've been mated. Stalemate also immediately ends the game.
– itub
10 hours ago
What if the move Player A made was to checkmate Player B? I assume that would be covered under "the game is concluded in some other way" and thus the draw would automatically be rescinded?
– Michael
11 hours ago
What if the move Player A made was to checkmate Player B? I assume that would be covered under "the game is concluded in some other way" and thus the draw would automatically be rescinded?
– Michael
11 hours ago
@Michael To be honest I don't know, but it sounds like it, although obviously player B is going to accept before getting checkmated.
– Allure
10 hours ago
@Michael To be honest I don't know, but it sounds like it, although obviously player B is going to accept before getting checkmated.
– Allure
10 hours ago
1
1
Checkmate immediately ends the game. You can't accept a draw offer after you've been mated. Stalemate also immediately ends the game.
– itub
10 hours ago
Checkmate immediately ends the game. You can't accept a draw offer after you've been mated. Stalemate also immediately ends the game.
– itub
10 hours ago
add a comment |
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