Secret Hitler: is asking another player to choose which card to discard “cheating?”












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To signal one's allegiance to the Liberals as President, one could say to another player, "all my cards are Fascist and it matters not which one I discard! Tell me which card of the 3 to discard!"



Similarly, the Chancellor could hold out two cards to another play and say, "all my cards are Fascist; choose one to discard" and also pass the choice onto another player, again signaling trustworthiness.



Is this kind of move allowed (or should it be allowed)? Is it in any way "cheating?"










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    To signal one's allegiance to the Liberals as President, one could say to another player, "all my cards are Fascist and it matters not which one I discard! Tell me which card of the 3 to discard!"



    Similarly, the Chancellor could hold out two cards to another play and say, "all my cards are Fascist; choose one to discard" and also pass the choice onto another player, again signaling trustworthiness.



    Is this kind of move allowed (or should it be allowed)? Is it in any way "cheating?"










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      To signal one's allegiance to the Liberals as President, one could say to another player, "all my cards are Fascist and it matters not which one I discard! Tell me which card of the 3 to discard!"



      Similarly, the Chancellor could hold out two cards to another play and say, "all my cards are Fascist; choose one to discard" and also pass the choice onto another player, again signaling trustworthiness.



      Is this kind of move allowed (or should it be allowed)? Is it in any way "cheating?"










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      To signal one's allegiance to the Liberals as President, one could say to another player, "all my cards are Fascist and it matters not which one I discard! Tell me which card of the 3 to discard!"



      Similarly, the Chancellor could hold out two cards to another play and say, "all my cards are Fascist; choose one to discard" and also pass the choice onto another player, again signaling trustworthiness.



      Is this kind of move allowed (or should it be allowed)? Is it in any way "cheating?"







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          Yes it is cheating and called out in the rules.



          Rules




          Verbal and nonverbal communication between the
          President and Chancellor is forbidden. The
          President and Chancellor MAY NOT pick Policies
          to play at random, shuffle the tiles before
          discarding one, or do anything else clever to
          avoid secretly and intentionally selecting a
          Policy. Additionally, the President should hand
          both Policies over at the same time, rather
          than one at a time to gauge the Chancellor’s
          reaction. Attempting to telegraph the contents
          of your hand using randomness or any other
          unusual selection procedure violates the spirit
          of the game. Don’t do it.




          Additionally




          Discarded Policy tiles should never be revealed
          to the group. Players must rely on the word of
          the President and Chancellor, who are free to
          lie.




          Simply put once the election is over the President and Chancellor should stop all communication and move to quickly enact a new policy by following the rules and this should be done in a timely manner as to not give any hidden meanings from the actions.




          • President draws 3 policies

          • President discards one and hands the other two over at the same time to the Chancellor

          • Chancellor discards one of the policies and then enacts the other one.

          • At this point and only this point can the President and or Chancellor make claims about what policies they had to chose from


          As a side note one very important thing to remember is that no matter what side someone is on they are going to make a claim about having no choice if a fascist policy is enacted. Also a claim can easily be made that the Chancellor was given a choice when a fascist policy was enacted and it was just a fascist President trying to make a liberal Chancellor look bad. The key point here is that the claims of what cards each player had to chose from need to be taken with a large grain of salt as you can easily lie about them.






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            Yes it is cheating and called out in the rules.



            Rules




            Verbal and nonverbal communication between the
            President and Chancellor is forbidden. The
            President and Chancellor MAY NOT pick Policies
            to play at random, shuffle the tiles before
            discarding one, or do anything else clever to
            avoid secretly and intentionally selecting a
            Policy. Additionally, the President should hand
            both Policies over at the same time, rather
            than one at a time to gauge the Chancellor’s
            reaction. Attempting to telegraph the contents
            of your hand using randomness or any other
            unusual selection procedure violates the spirit
            of the game. Don’t do it.




            Additionally




            Discarded Policy tiles should never be revealed
            to the group. Players must rely on the word of
            the President and Chancellor, who are free to
            lie.




            Simply put once the election is over the President and Chancellor should stop all communication and move to quickly enact a new policy by following the rules and this should be done in a timely manner as to not give any hidden meanings from the actions.




            • President draws 3 policies

            • President discards one and hands the other two over at the same time to the Chancellor

            • Chancellor discards one of the policies and then enacts the other one.

            • At this point and only this point can the President and or Chancellor make claims about what policies they had to chose from


            As a side note one very important thing to remember is that no matter what side someone is on they are going to make a claim about having no choice if a fascist policy is enacted. Also a claim can easily be made that the Chancellor was given a choice when a fascist policy was enacted and it was just a fascist President trying to make a liberal Chancellor look bad. The key point here is that the claims of what cards each player had to chose from need to be taken with a large grain of salt as you can easily lie about them.






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              Yes it is cheating and called out in the rules.



              Rules




              Verbal and nonverbal communication between the
              President and Chancellor is forbidden. The
              President and Chancellor MAY NOT pick Policies
              to play at random, shuffle the tiles before
              discarding one, or do anything else clever to
              avoid secretly and intentionally selecting a
              Policy. Additionally, the President should hand
              both Policies over at the same time, rather
              than one at a time to gauge the Chancellor’s
              reaction. Attempting to telegraph the contents
              of your hand using randomness or any other
              unusual selection procedure violates the spirit
              of the game. Don’t do it.




              Additionally




              Discarded Policy tiles should never be revealed
              to the group. Players must rely on the word of
              the President and Chancellor, who are free to
              lie.




              Simply put once the election is over the President and Chancellor should stop all communication and move to quickly enact a new policy by following the rules and this should be done in a timely manner as to not give any hidden meanings from the actions.




              • President draws 3 policies

              • President discards one and hands the other two over at the same time to the Chancellor

              • Chancellor discards one of the policies and then enacts the other one.

              • At this point and only this point can the President and or Chancellor make claims about what policies they had to chose from


              As a side note one very important thing to remember is that no matter what side someone is on they are going to make a claim about having no choice if a fascist policy is enacted. Also a claim can easily be made that the Chancellor was given a choice when a fascist policy was enacted and it was just a fascist President trying to make a liberal Chancellor look bad. The key point here is that the claims of what cards each player had to chose from need to be taken with a large grain of salt as you can easily lie about them.






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                Yes it is cheating and called out in the rules.



                Rules




                Verbal and nonverbal communication between the
                President and Chancellor is forbidden. The
                President and Chancellor MAY NOT pick Policies
                to play at random, shuffle the tiles before
                discarding one, or do anything else clever to
                avoid secretly and intentionally selecting a
                Policy. Additionally, the President should hand
                both Policies over at the same time, rather
                than one at a time to gauge the Chancellor’s
                reaction. Attempting to telegraph the contents
                of your hand using randomness or any other
                unusual selection procedure violates the spirit
                of the game. Don’t do it.




                Additionally




                Discarded Policy tiles should never be revealed
                to the group. Players must rely on the word of
                the President and Chancellor, who are free to
                lie.




                Simply put once the election is over the President and Chancellor should stop all communication and move to quickly enact a new policy by following the rules and this should be done in a timely manner as to not give any hidden meanings from the actions.




                • President draws 3 policies

                • President discards one and hands the other two over at the same time to the Chancellor

                • Chancellor discards one of the policies and then enacts the other one.

                • At this point and only this point can the President and or Chancellor make claims about what policies they had to chose from


                As a side note one very important thing to remember is that no matter what side someone is on they are going to make a claim about having no choice if a fascist policy is enacted. Also a claim can easily be made that the Chancellor was given a choice when a fascist policy was enacted and it was just a fascist President trying to make a liberal Chancellor look bad. The key point here is that the claims of what cards each player had to chose from need to be taken with a large grain of salt as you can easily lie about them.






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                Yes it is cheating and called out in the rules.



                Rules




                Verbal and nonverbal communication between the
                President and Chancellor is forbidden. The
                President and Chancellor MAY NOT pick Policies
                to play at random, shuffle the tiles before
                discarding one, or do anything else clever to
                avoid secretly and intentionally selecting a
                Policy. Additionally, the President should hand
                both Policies over at the same time, rather
                than one at a time to gauge the Chancellor’s
                reaction. Attempting to telegraph the contents
                of your hand using randomness or any other
                unusual selection procedure violates the spirit
                of the game. Don’t do it.




                Additionally




                Discarded Policy tiles should never be revealed
                to the group. Players must rely on the word of
                the President and Chancellor, who are free to
                lie.




                Simply put once the election is over the President and Chancellor should stop all communication and move to quickly enact a new policy by following the rules and this should be done in a timely manner as to not give any hidden meanings from the actions.




                • President draws 3 policies

                • President discards one and hands the other two over at the same time to the Chancellor

                • Chancellor discards one of the policies and then enacts the other one.

                • At this point and only this point can the President and or Chancellor make claims about what policies they had to chose from


                As a side note one very important thing to remember is that no matter what side someone is on they are going to make a claim about having no choice if a fascist policy is enacted. Also a claim can easily be made that the Chancellor was given a choice when a fascist policy was enacted and it was just a fascist President trying to make a liberal Chancellor look bad. The key point here is that the claims of what cards each player had to chose from need to be taken with a large grain of salt as you can easily lie about them.







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