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The direction of the fields of an electromagnetic wave is not conventional but it's determined by Maxwell's equations. For the particular case of a plane electromagnetic wave of angular frequency $omega$ in vacuum, which can be represented by the picture you posted, Maxwell's equations require that the wave vector $boldsymbol{k}$, the electric field $boldsymbol{E}$ and the magnetic flux density $boldsymbol{B}$ obey the relationships (the dot represent the scalar product and the cross the vector product)



$$begin{align}&boldsymbol{k}cdot boldsymbol{E} = 0, \ &boldsymbol{k}cdot boldsymbol{B} = 0, \ & boldsymbol{B}=frac{1}{omega}boldsymbol{k}times boldsymbol{E}.end{align}$$



This means that $boldsymbol{k}$, $boldsymbol{E}$ and $boldsymbol{B}$ are three orthogonal vectors and that the direction of any one of them is determined by the other two. Therefore, no, you cannot mirror the magnetic field in the picture.






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  • You may want to start with "Having defined the direction of B by the Lorentz rule ... " (BTW -1 was not me).
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    @BruceGreetham The point is that the magnetic field is defined in that way: once you have a certain definition, you cannot mirror the magnetic field (which is, I think, what the OP is asking).
    – Massimo Ortolano
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  • Massimo, agree with you. But, both cases - left handed and right-handed spin - are a solution.
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  • Yes I think that is what OP is asking too.
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    @HolgerFriedler This question is about a trivial redefinition of B, not about spin.
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If you were to flip the direction of the magnetic field in the above picture, it would describe light propagating in the opposite direction—so no, in this way, its direction is not a convention.



However, it's important to keep in mind that the direction of the magnetic field is a convention at a more fundamental level. It represents an oriented plane perpendicular to its direction via an orientation rule. If we all decided to use the "left hand rule" instead of the right hand rule for the cross product, then the magnetic field would point in the opposite direction. It is a bivector, or a pseudovector, field.



The electric field is a true vector field. At least in the three-dimensional description, which is itself a (very decent) convention, as long as we acknowledge that this picture depends on our reference frame.



In the four-dimensional picture, electric and magnetic fields can be understood as a single bivector field, such that a choice of reference frame determines a splitting of this bivector into independent "timelike" (electric) and "spacelike" (magnetic) planes.



That may be more than you were originally looking for, but I think this question makes for a good entry point to many of the other choices of representation that we make in physics.






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    Electrons in an antenna rod, accelerated in one direction, all emit photons with the same spin of their electric and magnetic field components. This is obvious, since the receiving antennas could be made of a rod to receive the changing electric field or could be made of a ring (available in the German wiki only) to receive the magnetic field. If accelerated in the same direction electrons would have spin clockwise and anti clockwise one would not be able to use the magnetic component (because both variations will cancel out each over).



    I’m not sure but think that protons and positrons will have the opposite spin to electrons and antiprotons. Clarification from specialists will be nice.






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    The direction of the fields of an electromagnetic wave is not conventional but it's determined by Maxwell's equations. For the particular case of a plane electromagnetic wave of angular frequency $omega$ in vacuum, which can be represented by the picture you posted, Maxwell's equations require that the wave vector $boldsymbol{k}$, the electric field $boldsymbol{E}$ and the magnetic flux density $boldsymbol{B}$ obey the relationships (the dot represent the scalar product and the cross the vector product)



    $$begin{align}&boldsymbol{k}cdot boldsymbol{E} = 0, \ &boldsymbol{k}cdot boldsymbol{B} = 0, \ & boldsymbol{B}=frac{1}{omega}boldsymbol{k}times boldsymbol{E}.end{align}$$



    This means that $boldsymbol{k}$, $boldsymbol{E}$ and $boldsymbol{B}$ are three orthogonal vectors and that the direction of any one of them is determined by the other two. Therefore, no, you cannot mirror the magnetic field in the picture.






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    • You may want to start with "Having defined the direction of B by the Lorentz rule ... " (BTW -1 was not me).
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      @BruceGreetham The point is that the magnetic field is defined in that way: once you have a certain definition, you cannot mirror the magnetic field (which is, I think, what the OP is asking).
      – Massimo Ortolano
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    • Massimo, agree with you. But, both cases - left handed and right-handed spin - are a solution.
      – HolgerFiedler
      1 hour ago










    • Yes I think that is what OP is asking too.
      – Bruce Greetham
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      @HolgerFriedler This question is about a trivial redefinition of B, not about spin.
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    The direction of the fields of an electromagnetic wave is not conventional but it's determined by Maxwell's equations. For the particular case of a plane electromagnetic wave of angular frequency $omega$ in vacuum, which can be represented by the picture you posted, Maxwell's equations require that the wave vector $boldsymbol{k}$, the electric field $boldsymbol{E}$ and the magnetic flux density $boldsymbol{B}$ obey the relationships (the dot represent the scalar product and the cross the vector product)



    $$begin{align}&boldsymbol{k}cdot boldsymbol{E} = 0, \ &boldsymbol{k}cdot boldsymbol{B} = 0, \ & boldsymbol{B}=frac{1}{omega}boldsymbol{k}times boldsymbol{E}.end{align}$$



    This means that $boldsymbol{k}$, $boldsymbol{E}$ and $boldsymbol{B}$ are three orthogonal vectors and that the direction of any one of them is determined by the other two. Therefore, no, you cannot mirror the magnetic field in the picture.






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    • You may want to start with "Having defined the direction of B by the Lorentz rule ... " (BTW -1 was not me).
      – Bruce Greetham
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      @BruceGreetham The point is that the magnetic field is defined in that way: once you have a certain definition, you cannot mirror the magnetic field (which is, I think, what the OP is asking).
      – Massimo Ortolano
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    • Massimo, agree with you. But, both cases - left handed and right-handed spin - are a solution.
      – HolgerFiedler
      1 hour ago










    • Yes I think that is what OP is asking too.
      – Bruce Greetham
      1 hour ago






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      @HolgerFriedler This question is about a trivial redefinition of B, not about spin.
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    The direction of the fields of an electromagnetic wave is not conventional but it's determined by Maxwell's equations. For the particular case of a plane electromagnetic wave of angular frequency $omega$ in vacuum, which can be represented by the picture you posted, Maxwell's equations require that the wave vector $boldsymbol{k}$, the electric field $boldsymbol{E}$ and the magnetic flux density $boldsymbol{B}$ obey the relationships (the dot represent the scalar product and the cross the vector product)



    $$begin{align}&boldsymbol{k}cdot boldsymbol{E} = 0, \ &boldsymbol{k}cdot boldsymbol{B} = 0, \ & boldsymbol{B}=frac{1}{omega}boldsymbol{k}times boldsymbol{E}.end{align}$$



    This means that $boldsymbol{k}$, $boldsymbol{E}$ and $boldsymbol{B}$ are three orthogonal vectors and that the direction of any one of them is determined by the other two. Therefore, no, you cannot mirror the magnetic field in the picture.






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    The direction of the fields of an electromagnetic wave is not conventional but it's determined by Maxwell's equations. For the particular case of a plane electromagnetic wave of angular frequency $omega$ in vacuum, which can be represented by the picture you posted, Maxwell's equations require that the wave vector $boldsymbol{k}$, the electric field $boldsymbol{E}$ and the magnetic flux density $boldsymbol{B}$ obey the relationships (the dot represent the scalar product and the cross the vector product)



    $$begin{align}&boldsymbol{k}cdot boldsymbol{E} = 0, \ &boldsymbol{k}cdot boldsymbol{B} = 0, \ & boldsymbol{B}=frac{1}{omega}boldsymbol{k}times boldsymbol{E}.end{align}$$



    This means that $boldsymbol{k}$, $boldsymbol{E}$ and $boldsymbol{B}$ are three orthogonal vectors and that the direction of any one of them is determined by the other two. Therefore, no, you cannot mirror the magnetic field in the picture.







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    • You may want to start with "Having defined the direction of B by the Lorentz rule ... " (BTW -1 was not me).
      – Bruce Greetham
      1 hour ago






    • 2




      @BruceGreetham The point is that the magnetic field is defined in that way: once you have a certain definition, you cannot mirror the magnetic field (which is, I think, what the OP is asking).
      – Massimo Ortolano
      1 hour ago












    • Massimo, agree with you. But, both cases - left handed and right-handed spin - are a solution.
      – HolgerFiedler
      1 hour ago










    • Yes I think that is what OP is asking too.
      – Bruce Greetham
      1 hour ago






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      @HolgerFriedler This question is about a trivial redefinition of B, not about spin.
      – my2cts
      37 mins ago


















    • You may want to start with "Having defined the direction of B by the Lorentz rule ... " (BTW -1 was not me).
      – Bruce Greetham
      1 hour ago






    • 2




      @BruceGreetham The point is that the magnetic field is defined in that way: once you have a certain definition, you cannot mirror the magnetic field (which is, I think, what the OP is asking).
      – Massimo Ortolano
      1 hour ago












    • Massimo, agree with you. But, both cases - left handed and right-handed spin - are a solution.
      – HolgerFiedler
      1 hour ago










    • Yes I think that is what OP is asking too.
      – Bruce Greetham
      1 hour ago






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      @HolgerFriedler This question is about a trivial redefinition of B, not about spin.
      – my2cts
      37 mins ago
















    You may want to start with "Having defined the direction of B by the Lorentz rule ... " (BTW -1 was not me).
    – Bruce Greetham
    1 hour ago




    You may want to start with "Having defined the direction of B by the Lorentz rule ... " (BTW -1 was not me).
    – Bruce Greetham
    1 hour ago




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    @BruceGreetham The point is that the magnetic field is defined in that way: once you have a certain definition, you cannot mirror the magnetic field (which is, I think, what the OP is asking).
    – Massimo Ortolano
    1 hour ago






    @BruceGreetham The point is that the magnetic field is defined in that way: once you have a certain definition, you cannot mirror the magnetic field (which is, I think, what the OP is asking).
    – Massimo Ortolano
    1 hour ago














    Massimo, agree with you. But, both cases - left handed and right-handed spin - are a solution.
    – HolgerFiedler
    1 hour ago




    Massimo, agree with you. But, both cases - left handed and right-handed spin - are a solution.
    – HolgerFiedler
    1 hour ago












    Yes I think that is what OP is asking too.
    – Bruce Greetham
    1 hour ago




    Yes I think that is what OP is asking too.
    – Bruce Greetham
    1 hour ago




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    @HolgerFriedler This question is about a trivial redefinition of B, not about spin.
    – my2cts
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    @HolgerFriedler This question is about a trivial redefinition of B, not about spin.
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    If you were to flip the direction of the magnetic field in the above picture, it would describe light propagating in the opposite direction—so no, in this way, its direction is not a convention.



    However, it's important to keep in mind that the direction of the magnetic field is a convention at a more fundamental level. It represents an oriented plane perpendicular to its direction via an orientation rule. If we all decided to use the "left hand rule" instead of the right hand rule for the cross product, then the magnetic field would point in the opposite direction. It is a bivector, or a pseudovector, field.



    The electric field is a true vector field. At least in the three-dimensional description, which is itself a (very decent) convention, as long as we acknowledge that this picture depends on our reference frame.



    In the four-dimensional picture, electric and magnetic fields can be understood as a single bivector field, such that a choice of reference frame determines a splitting of this bivector into independent "timelike" (electric) and "spacelike" (magnetic) planes.



    That may be more than you were originally looking for, but I think this question makes for a good entry point to many of the other choices of representation that we make in physics.






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      If you were to flip the direction of the magnetic field in the above picture, it would describe light propagating in the opposite direction—so no, in this way, its direction is not a convention.



      However, it's important to keep in mind that the direction of the magnetic field is a convention at a more fundamental level. It represents an oriented plane perpendicular to its direction via an orientation rule. If we all decided to use the "left hand rule" instead of the right hand rule for the cross product, then the magnetic field would point in the opposite direction. It is a bivector, or a pseudovector, field.



      The electric field is a true vector field. At least in the three-dimensional description, which is itself a (very decent) convention, as long as we acknowledge that this picture depends on our reference frame.



      In the four-dimensional picture, electric and magnetic fields can be understood as a single bivector field, such that a choice of reference frame determines a splitting of this bivector into independent "timelike" (electric) and "spacelike" (magnetic) planes.



      That may be more than you were originally looking for, but I think this question makes for a good entry point to many of the other choices of representation that we make in physics.






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        If you were to flip the direction of the magnetic field in the above picture, it would describe light propagating in the opposite direction—so no, in this way, its direction is not a convention.



        However, it's important to keep in mind that the direction of the magnetic field is a convention at a more fundamental level. It represents an oriented plane perpendicular to its direction via an orientation rule. If we all decided to use the "left hand rule" instead of the right hand rule for the cross product, then the magnetic field would point in the opposite direction. It is a bivector, or a pseudovector, field.



        The electric field is a true vector field. At least in the three-dimensional description, which is itself a (very decent) convention, as long as we acknowledge that this picture depends on our reference frame.



        In the four-dimensional picture, electric and magnetic fields can be understood as a single bivector field, such that a choice of reference frame determines a splitting of this bivector into independent "timelike" (electric) and "spacelike" (magnetic) planes.



        That may be more than you were originally looking for, but I think this question makes for a good entry point to many of the other choices of representation that we make in physics.






        share|cite|improve this answer














        If you were to flip the direction of the magnetic field in the above picture, it would describe light propagating in the opposite direction—so no, in this way, its direction is not a convention.



        However, it's important to keep in mind that the direction of the magnetic field is a convention at a more fundamental level. It represents an oriented plane perpendicular to its direction via an orientation rule. If we all decided to use the "left hand rule" instead of the right hand rule for the cross product, then the magnetic field would point in the opposite direction. It is a bivector, or a pseudovector, field.



        The electric field is a true vector field. At least in the three-dimensional description, which is itself a (very decent) convention, as long as we acknowledge that this picture depends on our reference frame.



        In the four-dimensional picture, electric and magnetic fields can be understood as a single bivector field, such that a choice of reference frame determines a splitting of this bivector into independent "timelike" (electric) and "spacelike" (magnetic) planes.



        That may be more than you were originally looking for, but I think this question makes for a good entry point to many of the other choices of representation that we make in physics.







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            Electrons in an antenna rod, accelerated in one direction, all emit photons with the same spin of their electric and magnetic field components. This is obvious, since the receiving antennas could be made of a rod to receive the changing electric field or could be made of a ring (available in the German wiki only) to receive the magnetic field. If accelerated in the same direction electrons would have spin clockwise and anti clockwise one would not be able to use the magnetic component (because both variations will cancel out each over).



            I’m not sure but think that protons and positrons will have the opposite spin to electrons and antiprotons. Clarification from specialists will be nice.






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              This question is not related to spin.
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            Electrons in an antenna rod, accelerated in one direction, all emit photons with the same spin of their electric and magnetic field components. This is obvious, since the receiving antennas could be made of a rod to receive the changing electric field or could be made of a ring (available in the German wiki only) to receive the magnetic field. If accelerated in the same direction electrons would have spin clockwise and anti clockwise one would not be able to use the magnetic component (because both variations will cancel out each over).



            I’m not sure but think that protons and positrons will have the opposite spin to electrons and antiprotons. Clarification from specialists will be nice.






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              This question is not related to spin.
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            Electrons in an antenna rod, accelerated in one direction, all emit photons with the same spin of their electric and magnetic field components. This is obvious, since the receiving antennas could be made of a rod to receive the changing electric field or could be made of a ring (available in the German wiki only) to receive the magnetic field. If accelerated in the same direction electrons would have spin clockwise and anti clockwise one would not be able to use the magnetic component (because both variations will cancel out each over).



            I’m not sure but think that protons and positrons will have the opposite spin to electrons and antiprotons. Clarification from specialists will be nice.






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            Electrons in an antenna rod, accelerated in one direction, all emit photons with the same spin of their electric and magnetic field components. This is obvious, since the receiving antennas could be made of a rod to receive the changing electric field or could be made of a ring (available in the German wiki only) to receive the magnetic field. If accelerated in the same direction electrons would have spin clockwise and anti clockwise one would not be able to use the magnetic component (because both variations will cancel out each over).



            I’m not sure but think that protons and positrons will have the opposite spin to electrons and antiprotons. Clarification from specialists will be nice.







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