Is Goal Setting useless if Bhagavad Gita says to work without expecting the rewards?
So, I have this doubt in my mind. I have read Bhagavad Gita and in that book I remember that Krishna told Arjuna to focus only on your actions but not on the results of your actions. Now if I follow this advice to succeed in materialistic world then I don't think it will work. Because in that sense all the concept of goal setting will be useless.
Without a proper goal we won't be motivated towards doing our work. And to focus only on actions can be interpreted by me that one should do his best in every work which one does. But doing the best thing is not always enough since a deadline is always required to achieve a particular goal or desire. And as far as I know, successful people are those who are obsessed with their goals.
For example, I am studying nowadays to switch my job to a better company then the current one. I think setting a goal is absolutely necessary here on what kind of salary do I want from my new job, and how much time would it take for me to prepare for interview properly and this is a goal. So I have to work by constantly looking at my goal or the deadline which I set unless I will just pass the time.
Can someone please answer this question with a suitable example? It would be great if that example would be similar to my situation.
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So, I have this doubt in my mind. I have read Bhagavad Gita and in that book I remember that Krishna told Arjuna to focus only on your actions but not on the results of your actions. Now if I follow this advice to succeed in materialistic world then I don't think it will work. Because in that sense all the concept of goal setting will be useless.
Without a proper goal we won't be motivated towards doing our work. And to focus only on actions can be interpreted by me that one should do his best in every work which one does. But doing the best thing is not always enough since a deadline is always required to achieve a particular goal or desire. And as far as I know, successful people are those who are obsessed with their goals.
For example, I am studying nowadays to switch my job to a better company then the current one. I think setting a goal is absolutely necessary here on what kind of salary do I want from my new job, and how much time would it take for me to prepare for interview properly and this is a goal. So I have to work by constantly looking at my goal or the deadline which I set unless I will just pass the time.
Can someone please answer this question with a suitable example? It would be great if that example would be similar to my situation.
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No.. the goal of work shouldn't be oriented towards like what personal rewards you get from work. Like if you are bringing up your child with motive intention of serving you in your old age its selfish action. But if you bring him with intention of making him a valuable gift to society and lifting it through virtues that's Karma Yoga.
– Akshay S
1 hour ago
@AkshayS Ok, I understand that particular point of yours but what will you say in my situation?
– DG4
1 hour ago
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You can use chatrooms of this site for advices. But in your case, I think you should first aim to get a job which gives you enough time to explore yourself. First get peaceful job having good work life balance then implement Bhagwat Geeta.
– Turiyanāth
33 mins ago
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So, I have this doubt in my mind. I have read Bhagavad Gita and in that book I remember that Krishna told Arjuna to focus only on your actions but not on the results of your actions. Now if I follow this advice to succeed in materialistic world then I don't think it will work. Because in that sense all the concept of goal setting will be useless.
Without a proper goal we won't be motivated towards doing our work. And to focus only on actions can be interpreted by me that one should do his best in every work which one does. But doing the best thing is not always enough since a deadline is always required to achieve a particular goal or desire. And as far as I know, successful people are those who are obsessed with their goals.
For example, I am studying nowadays to switch my job to a better company then the current one. I think setting a goal is absolutely necessary here on what kind of salary do I want from my new job, and how much time would it take for me to prepare for interview properly and this is a goal. So I have to work by constantly looking at my goal or the deadline which I set unless I will just pass the time.
Can someone please answer this question with a suitable example? It would be great if that example would be similar to my situation.
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So, I have this doubt in my mind. I have read Bhagavad Gita and in that book I remember that Krishna told Arjuna to focus only on your actions but not on the results of your actions. Now if I follow this advice to succeed in materialistic world then I don't think it will work. Because in that sense all the concept of goal setting will be useless.
Without a proper goal we won't be motivated towards doing our work. And to focus only on actions can be interpreted by me that one should do his best in every work which one does. But doing the best thing is not always enough since a deadline is always required to achieve a particular goal or desire. And as far as I know, successful people are those who are obsessed with their goals.
For example, I am studying nowadays to switch my job to a better company then the current one. I think setting a goal is absolutely necessary here on what kind of salary do I want from my new job, and how much time would it take for me to prepare for interview properly and this is a goal. So I have to work by constantly looking at my goal or the deadline which I set unless I will just pass the time.
Can someone please answer this question with a suitable example? It would be great if that example would be similar to my situation.
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No.. the goal of work shouldn't be oriented towards like what personal rewards you get from work. Like if you are bringing up your child with motive intention of serving you in your old age its selfish action. But if you bring him with intention of making him a valuable gift to society and lifting it through virtues that's Karma Yoga.
– Akshay S
1 hour ago
@AkshayS Ok, I understand that particular point of yours but what will you say in my situation?
– DG4
1 hour ago
2
You can use chatrooms of this site for advices. But in your case, I think you should first aim to get a job which gives you enough time to explore yourself. First get peaceful job having good work life balance then implement Bhagwat Geeta.
– Turiyanāth
33 mins ago
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No.. the goal of work shouldn't be oriented towards like what personal rewards you get from work. Like if you are bringing up your child with motive intention of serving you in your old age its selfish action. But if you bring him with intention of making him a valuable gift to society and lifting it through virtues that's Karma Yoga.
– Akshay S
1 hour ago
@AkshayS Ok, I understand that particular point of yours but what will you say in my situation?
– DG4
1 hour ago
2
You can use chatrooms of this site for advices. But in your case, I think you should first aim to get a job which gives you enough time to explore yourself. First get peaceful job having good work life balance then implement Bhagwat Geeta.
– Turiyanāth
33 mins ago
1
1
No.. the goal of work shouldn't be oriented towards like what personal rewards you get from work. Like if you are bringing up your child with motive intention of serving you in your old age its selfish action. But if you bring him with intention of making him a valuable gift to society and lifting it through virtues that's Karma Yoga.
– Akshay S
1 hour ago
No.. the goal of work shouldn't be oriented towards like what personal rewards you get from work. Like if you are bringing up your child with motive intention of serving you in your old age its selfish action. But if you bring him with intention of making him a valuable gift to society and lifting it through virtues that's Karma Yoga.
– Akshay S
1 hour ago
@AkshayS Ok, I understand that particular point of yours but what will you say in my situation?
– DG4
1 hour ago
@AkshayS Ok, I understand that particular point of yours but what will you say in my situation?
– DG4
1 hour ago
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2
You can use chatrooms of this site for advices. But in your case, I think you should first aim to get a job which gives you enough time to explore yourself. First get peaceful job having good work life balance then implement Bhagwat Geeta.
– Turiyanāth
33 mins ago
You can use chatrooms of this site for advices. But in your case, I think you should first aim to get a job which gives you enough time to explore yourself. First get peaceful job having good work life balance then implement Bhagwat Geeta.
– Turiyanāth
33 mins ago
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Actually, without following traditional varNAshram dharma where son follows the occupation of his father, Krishna's teaching of Bhagwadgeeta doesn't square well. In traditional structure of society, a son invariably inherits occupation of his father so he doesn't need to set goal or whatever. He can just fulfill his traditional duties desirelessly. Confusion arises when structure of traditional occupations shatters... Then one obviously inspires 'to become' something & the becoming can never be desireless; ultimately turned out to be an anti-thesis of Karma Yoga.
Now, having traditional work culture gone incognito, only way to follow
karmanye vAdhikAraste...
is to become desireless this very moment and keep doing without any attachments whatever you are doing right now...
answered 58 mins ago
Turiyanāth
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I agree with your statements except the last paragraph. If we become desireless then there will be no motivation (internal) to become what we want or to achieve our goal. And we will live an aimless life which after some time will feel worthless.
– DG4
52 mins ago
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@DG4 "there will be no motivation to become what we want"... This is exactly what Krishna wants. And this is something where Buddha, Mahavir etc all agree. "And we will live an aimless life which after some time will feel worthless"... You convict so as you can't imagine a world without pleasure. Once you start understanding the nature of pleasure, self & joy, you would understand one can live without pleasures yet be joyful. Read this, you will understand.
– Turiyanāth
42 mins ago
@DG4 "If we become desireless then there will be no motivation (internal)" There is motivation for the spiritual seeker to attain moksha. A spiritual seeker is not desireless.
– Surya Kanta Bose Chowdhury
23 mins ago
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See this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sH41GWY0CU
Jaggi Vasudev on Goal.
answered 1 hour ago
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Welcome. Better you present transcript here.
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Actually, without following traditional varNAshram dharma where son follows the occupation of his father, Krishna's teaching of Bhagwadgeeta doesn't square well. In traditional structure of society, a son invariably inherits occupation of his father so he doesn't need to set goal or whatever. He can just fulfill his traditional duties desirelessly. Confusion arises when structure of traditional occupations shatters... Then one obviously inspires 'to become' something & the becoming can never be desireless; ultimately turned out to be an anti-thesis of Karma Yoga.
Now, having traditional work culture gone incognito, only way to follow
karmanye vAdhikAraste...
is to become desireless this very moment and keep doing without any attachments whatever you are doing right now...
answered 58 mins ago
Turiyanāth
7,03012066
I agree with your statements except the last paragraph. If we become desireless then there will be no motivation (internal) to become what we want or to achieve our goal. And we will live an aimless life which after some time will feel worthless.
– DG4
52 mins ago
1
@DG4 "there will be no motivation to become what we want"... This is exactly what Krishna wants. And this is something where Buddha, Mahavir etc all agree. "And we will live an aimless life which after some time will feel worthless"... You convict so as you can't imagine a world without pleasure. Once you start understanding the nature of pleasure, self & joy, you would understand one can live without pleasures yet be joyful. Read this, you will understand.
– Turiyanāth
42 mins ago
@DG4 "If we become desireless then there will be no motivation (internal)" There is motivation for the spiritual seeker to attain moksha. A spiritual seeker is not desireless.
– Surya Kanta Bose Chowdhury
23 mins ago
add a comment |
Actually, without following traditional varNAshram dharma where son follows the occupation of his father, Krishna's teaching of Bhagwadgeeta doesn't square well. In traditional structure of society, a son invariably inherits occupation of his father so he doesn't need to set goal or whatever. He can just fulfill his traditional duties desirelessly. Confusion arises when structure of traditional occupations shatters... Then one obviously inspires 'to become' something & the becoming can never be desireless; ultimately turned out to be an anti-thesis of Karma Yoga.
Now, having traditional work culture gone incognito, only way to follow
karmanye vAdhikAraste...
is to become desireless this very moment and keep doing without any attachments whatever you are doing right now...
answered 58 mins ago
Turiyanāth
7,03012066
I agree with your statements except the last paragraph. If we become desireless then there will be no motivation (internal) to become what we want or to achieve our goal. And we will live an aimless life which after some time will feel worthless.
– DG4
52 mins ago
1
@DG4 "there will be no motivation to become what we want"... This is exactly what Krishna wants. And this is something where Buddha, Mahavir etc all agree. "And we will live an aimless life which after some time will feel worthless"... You convict so as you can't imagine a world without pleasure. Once you start understanding the nature of pleasure, self & joy, you would understand one can live without pleasures yet be joyful. Read this, you will understand.
– Turiyanāth
42 mins ago
@DG4 "If we become desireless then there will be no motivation (internal)" There is motivation for the spiritual seeker to attain moksha. A spiritual seeker is not desireless.
– Surya Kanta Bose Chowdhury
23 mins ago
add a comment |
Actually, without following traditional varNAshram dharma where son follows the occupation of his father, Krishna's teaching of Bhagwadgeeta doesn't square well. In traditional structure of society, a son invariably inherits occupation of his father so he doesn't need to set goal or whatever. He can just fulfill his traditional duties desirelessly. Confusion arises when structure of traditional occupations shatters... Then one obviously inspires 'to become' something & the becoming can never be desireless; ultimately turned out to be an anti-thesis of Karma Yoga.
Now, having traditional work culture gone incognito, only way to follow
karmanye vAdhikAraste...
is to become desireless this very moment and keep doing without any attachments whatever you are doing right now...
answered 58 mins ago
Turiyanāth
7,03012066
Actually, without following traditional varNAshram dharma where son follows the occupation of his father, Krishna's teaching of Bhagwadgeeta doesn't square well. In traditional structure of society, a son invariably inherits occupation of his father so he doesn't need to set goal or whatever. He can just fulfill his traditional duties desirelessly. Confusion arises when structure of traditional occupations shatters... Then one obviously inspires 'to become' something & the becoming can never be desireless; ultimately turned out to be an anti-thesis of Karma Yoga.
Now, having traditional work culture gone incognito, only way to follow
karmanye vAdhikAraste...
is to become desireless this very moment and keep doing without any attachments whatever you are doing right now...
answered 58 mins ago
Turiyanāth
7,03012066
answered 58 mins ago
Turiyanāth
7,03012066
answered 58 mins ago
Turiyanāth
7,03012066
answered 58 mins ago
Turiyanāth
7,03012066
7,03012066
I agree with your statements except the last paragraph. If we become desireless then there will be no motivation (internal) to become what we want or to achieve our goal. And we will live an aimless life which after some time will feel worthless.
– DG4
52 mins ago
1
@DG4 "there will be no motivation to become what we want"... This is exactly what Krishna wants. And this is something where Buddha, Mahavir etc all agree. "And we will live an aimless life which after some time will feel worthless"... You convict so as you can't imagine a world without pleasure. Once you start understanding the nature of pleasure, self & joy, you would understand one can live without pleasures yet be joyful. Read this, you will understand.
– Turiyanāth
42 mins ago
@DG4 "If we become desireless then there will be no motivation (internal)" There is motivation for the spiritual seeker to attain moksha. A spiritual seeker is not desireless.
– Surya Kanta Bose Chowdhury
23 mins ago
add a comment |
I agree with your statements except the last paragraph. If we become desireless then there will be no motivation (internal) to become what we want or to achieve our goal. And we will live an aimless life which after some time will feel worthless.
– DG4
52 mins ago
1
@DG4 "there will be no motivation to become what we want"... This is exactly what Krishna wants. And this is something where Buddha, Mahavir etc all agree. "And we will live an aimless life which after some time will feel worthless"... You convict so as you can't imagine a world without pleasure. Once you start understanding the nature of pleasure, self & joy, you would understand one can live without pleasures yet be joyful. Read this, you will understand.
– Turiyanāth
42 mins ago
@DG4 "If we become desireless then there will be no motivation (internal)" There is motivation for the spiritual seeker to attain moksha. A spiritual seeker is not desireless.
– Surya Kanta Bose Chowdhury
23 mins ago
I agree with your statements except the last paragraph. If we become desireless then there will be no motivation (internal) to become what we want or to achieve our goal. And we will live an aimless life which after some time will feel worthless.
– DG4
52 mins ago
I agree with your statements except the last paragraph. If we become desireless then there will be no motivation (internal) to become what we want or to achieve our goal. And we will live an aimless life which after some time will feel worthless.
– DG4
52 mins ago
1
1
@DG4 "there will be no motivation to become what we want"... This is exactly what Krishna wants. And this is something where Buddha, Mahavir etc all agree. "And we will live an aimless life which after some time will feel worthless"... You convict so as you can't imagine a world without pleasure. Once you start understanding the nature of pleasure, self & joy, you would understand one can live without pleasures yet be joyful. Read this, you will understand.
– Turiyanāth
42 mins ago
@DG4 "there will be no motivation to become what we want"... This is exactly what Krishna wants. And this is something where Buddha, Mahavir etc all agree. "And we will live an aimless life which after some time will feel worthless"... You convict so as you can't imagine a world without pleasure. Once you start understanding the nature of pleasure, self & joy, you would understand one can live without pleasures yet be joyful. Read this, you will understand.
– Turiyanāth
42 mins ago
@DG4 "If we become desireless then there will be no motivation (internal)" There is motivation for the spiritual seeker to attain moksha. A spiritual seeker is not desireless.
– Surya Kanta Bose Chowdhury
23 mins ago
@DG4 "If we become desireless then there will be no motivation (internal)" There is motivation for the spiritual seeker to attain moksha. A spiritual seeker is not desireless.
– Surya Kanta Bose Chowdhury
23 mins ago
add a comment |
See this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sH41GWY0CU
Jaggi Vasudev on Goal.
answered 1 hour ago
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Welcome. Better you present transcript here.
– Turiyanāth
48 mins ago
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See this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sH41GWY0CU
Jaggi Vasudev on Goal.
answered 1 hour ago
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Welcome. Better you present transcript here.
– Turiyanāth
48 mins ago
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See this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sH41GWY0CU
Jaggi Vasudev on Goal.
answered 1 hour ago
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See this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sH41GWY0CU
Jaggi Vasudev on Goal.
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Welcome. Better you present transcript here.
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Welcome. Better you present transcript here.
– Turiyanāth
48 mins ago
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Welcome. Better you present transcript here.
– Turiyanāth
48 mins ago
Welcome. Better you present transcript here.
– Turiyanāth
48 mins ago
add a comment |
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No.. the goal of work shouldn't be oriented towards like what personal rewards you get from work. Like if you are bringing up your child with motive intention of serving you in your old age its selfish action. But if you bring him with intention of making him a valuable gift to society and lifting it through virtues that's Karma Yoga.
– Akshay S
1 hour ago
@AkshayS Ok, I understand that particular point of yours but what will you say in my situation?
– DG4
1 hour ago
2
You can use chatrooms of this site for advices. But in your case, I think you should first aim to get a job which gives you enough time to explore yourself. First get peaceful job having good work life balance then implement Bhagwat Geeta.
– Turiyanāth
33 mins ago