Why can't the word “can” be used in future tense (will can)?
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I'm curious about why the English word can cannot be used in future tense (e.g. will can).
An example unrelated to English is French term je pourrai, but that's exactly what I mean.
Compare German ich werde können which translates exactly to I will be able, and literally to I will can, given that können and can have the same origin. I feel that this is confusing.
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I'm curious about why the English word can cannot be used in future tense (e.g. will can).
An example unrelated to English is French term je pourrai, but that's exactly what I mean.
Compare German ich werde können which translates exactly to I will be able, and literally to I will can, given that können and can have the same origin. I feel that this is confusing.
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To my ear, it sounds like you're going to throw something out. As in: "If it gets too cost-prohibitive, I will can that idea."
– Ian MacDonald
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Yes, I understood that. I'm just suggesting that perhaps people don't say it because of the other meaning of that pairing.
– Ian MacDonald
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"Why" questions about English grammar? Do not expect logical answers.
– GEdgar
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I think the reason is that standard English prohibits the use of double modals, as addressed in this post: english.stackexchange.com/questions/3211/…. Some dialects, like my own, incorporate double modals like 'might could,' 'might should,' 'should ought to,' etc. but I don't believe I've ever heard 'will can.'
– eenbeetje
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@JanusBahsJacquet 'Why' questions, though ostensibly about motivation (as though there is some conscious designer of a language, and 'why' asks for that person's reasons), usually turn out to be adequately answered by a description of history (what actually happened to change or not), and then comparing with similar situations (this other pattern did a similar thing). So it is often descriptive rather than explanatory. Sometimes there are actual explanations (vowel rotations, filling lexical gaps, etc) but often history is all there is. Appeals to laziness are often... lazy.
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I'm curious about why the English word can cannot be used in future tense (e.g. will can).
An example unrelated to English is French term je pourrai, but that's exactly what I mean.
Compare German ich werde können which translates exactly to I will be able, and literally to I will can, given that können and can have the same origin. I feel that this is confusing.
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I'm curious about why the English word can cannot be used in future tense (e.g. will can).
An example unrelated to English is French term je pourrai, but that's exactly what I mean.
Compare German ich werde können which translates exactly to I will be able, and literally to I will can, given that können and can have the same origin. I feel that this is confusing.
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To my ear, it sounds like you're going to throw something out. As in: "If it gets too cost-prohibitive, I will can that idea."
– Ian MacDonald
19 hours ago
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Yes, I understood that. I'm just suggesting that perhaps people don't say it because of the other meaning of that pairing.
– Ian MacDonald
19 hours ago
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"Why" questions about English grammar? Do not expect logical answers.
– GEdgar
19 hours ago
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I think the reason is that standard English prohibits the use of double modals, as addressed in this post: english.stackexchange.com/questions/3211/…. Some dialects, like my own, incorporate double modals like 'might could,' 'might should,' 'should ought to,' etc. but I don't believe I've ever heard 'will can.'
– eenbeetje
19 hours ago
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@JanusBahsJacquet 'Why' questions, though ostensibly about motivation (as though there is some conscious designer of a language, and 'why' asks for that person's reasons), usually turn out to be adequately answered by a description of history (what actually happened to change or not), and then comparing with similar situations (this other pattern did a similar thing). So it is often descriptive rather than explanatory. Sometimes there are actual explanations (vowel rotations, filling lexical gaps, etc) but often history is all there is. Appeals to laziness are often... lazy.
– Mitch
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To my ear, it sounds like you're going to throw something out. As in: "If it gets too cost-prohibitive, I will can that idea."
– Ian MacDonald
19 hours ago
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Yes, I understood that. I'm just suggesting that perhaps people don't say it because of the other meaning of that pairing.
– Ian MacDonald
19 hours ago
13
"Why" questions about English grammar? Do not expect logical answers.
– GEdgar
19 hours ago
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I think the reason is that standard English prohibits the use of double modals, as addressed in this post: english.stackexchange.com/questions/3211/…. Some dialects, like my own, incorporate double modals like 'might could,' 'might should,' 'should ought to,' etc. but I don't believe I've ever heard 'will can.'
– eenbeetje
19 hours ago
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@JanusBahsJacquet 'Why' questions, though ostensibly about motivation (as though there is some conscious designer of a language, and 'why' asks for that person's reasons), usually turn out to be adequately answered by a description of history (what actually happened to change or not), and then comparing with similar situations (this other pattern did a similar thing). So it is often descriptive rather than explanatory. Sometimes there are actual explanations (vowel rotations, filling lexical gaps, etc) but often history is all there is. Appeals to laziness are often... lazy.
– Mitch
17 hours ago
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To my ear, it sounds like you're going to throw something out. As in: "If it gets too cost-prohibitive, I will can that idea."
– Ian MacDonald
19 hours ago
To my ear, it sounds like you're going to throw something out. As in: "If it gets too cost-prohibitive, I will can that idea."
– Ian MacDonald
19 hours ago
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Yes, I understood that. I'm just suggesting that perhaps people don't say it because of the other meaning of that pairing.
– Ian MacDonald
19 hours ago
Yes, I understood that. I'm just suggesting that perhaps people don't say it because of the other meaning of that pairing.
– Ian MacDonald
19 hours ago
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"Why" questions about English grammar? Do not expect logical answers.
– GEdgar
19 hours ago
"Why" questions about English grammar? Do not expect logical answers.
– GEdgar
19 hours ago
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I think the reason is that standard English prohibits the use of double modals, as addressed in this post: english.stackexchange.com/questions/3211/…. Some dialects, like my own, incorporate double modals like 'might could,' 'might should,' 'should ought to,' etc. but I don't believe I've ever heard 'will can.'
– eenbeetje
19 hours ago
I think the reason is that standard English prohibits the use of double modals, as addressed in this post: english.stackexchange.com/questions/3211/…. Some dialects, like my own, incorporate double modals like 'might could,' 'might should,' 'should ought to,' etc. but I don't believe I've ever heard 'will can.'
– eenbeetje
19 hours ago
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@JanusBahsJacquet 'Why' questions, though ostensibly about motivation (as though there is some conscious designer of a language, and 'why' asks for that person's reasons), usually turn out to be adequately answered by a description of history (what actually happened to change or not), and then comparing with similar situations (this other pattern did a similar thing). So it is often descriptive rather than explanatory. Sometimes there are actual explanations (vowel rotations, filling lexical gaps, etc) but often history is all there is. Appeals to laziness are often... lazy.
– Mitch
17 hours ago
@JanusBahsJacquet 'Why' questions, though ostensibly about motivation (as though there is some conscious designer of a language, and 'why' asks for that person's reasons), usually turn out to be adequately answered by a description of history (what actually happened to change or not), and then comparing with similar situations (this other pattern did a similar thing). So it is often descriptive rather than explanatory. Sometimes there are actual explanations (vowel rotations, filling lexical gaps, etc) but often history is all there is. Appeals to laziness are often... lazy.
– Mitch
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This is a good example of the problems caused by lying to students in saying that will is "The Future Tense". There is no future tense in English. There is likewise no perfect tense, no progressive tense, no pluperfect tense, no future perfect tense. There are also no moods or voices. No matter what you've been taught. Sorry about that.
What English has is a present tense and a past tense, both managed by suffix or root change (deletes/deleted, drives/drove). That's it for tenses. There are various constructions like the Perfect construction, the Progressive construction, the Passive construction, etc. All of them take several words and don't require endings or prefixes, and word order is important.
One of the constructions that occurs in practically every sentence is the Verb Phrase, which usually starts with an auxiliary verb of some sort: some form of be or have for Perfect, Passive, or Progressive, and, at the beginning of the verb phrase, a modal auxiliary verb. When modals occur, they are always at the beginning of the verb phrase, because they only have one form (they are "defective verbs"), and that form is not an infinitive form or a participle form, so it can't go after be or have as the constructions require.
This results in modal auxiliaries always occurring alone at the beginning of a verb phrase -- or inverted with the subject in questions -- whenever they occur; and it also has the effect of limiting modals to one per verb phrase, at the beginning.
Why is this relevant to the "future tense"? Because what students are erroneously taught is not that will is one of the modal auxiliaries, and therefore behaves like can, may, must, should, would, could in not appearing together, but rather that will is "The Future Tense", a different category entirely, which can apply to anything, including uninflectable modal auxiliaries like can. Hence the question.
The answer is that English has special constructions that mean the same as modals, but have infinitive and participle forms, so they can be used in past tense, or in the Perfect or Progressive. These are called Periphrastic Modals, and the one associated with can in the sense you indicate is be able to.
That is, one can't say
- *I will/should can do that by next year.
but one can say, with the same intended meaning,
- I will/should be able to do that by next year.
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German also has only Present and Past tenses. It does have a Subjunctive Mood, however, also managed by affixes and roots. And the German modal auxiliary verbs are not defective, but have full paradigms, so they can be doubled in constructions ad libitum.
– John Lawler
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@iBug Yes, it’s the same. All Germanic languages have only present and past as far as tenses go. The statement in this answer that there are no moods in English is not uncontroversial, however; to the extent that there is any agreement on what ‘moods’ are (their definition varies an awful lot), there are many linguists who do consider that English has at least two moods (imperative and indicative), and also many that consider it to have three (adding the subjunctive).
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
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I call BS on your assertion that English doesn't have moods or voices. Were it to lack voices, this sentence would not be possible. Don't try to tell me that the previous sentence is past tense, nor that it's just present tense (indicative mood/voice; you can argue it isn't a mood or you that it isn't a voice, but it has to be one of them or their functional equivalent), for it's clearly neither of those.
– Monty Harder
16 hours ago
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@Sabuncu there are several posts on EL&U which talk about this feature Is it true that English has no future tense? and In place of a future tense, English can express the future in the following ways:…
– Mari-Lou A
14 hours ago
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@Sabuncu one more for the road Whose tense is it, anyway?
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Per Wikipedia, can is a "defective verb"...
For example, can lacks an infinitive, future tense, participle, imperative, and gerund. The missing parts of speech are instead supplied by using the appropriate forms of to be plus able to. So, while I could write and I was able to write have the same meaning, I could has two meanings depending on use, which are I was able to or I would be able to. One cannot say I will can, which is instead expressed as I will be able to.
As you'll see from that Wikipedia article, many other languages (including French and German as mentioned by OP) have defective verbs. But there's no particular reason why they should be the same verbs in different languages, since the reason for their existence at all (natural language variation over time) will depend very much on individual circumstances relating to time, place, meaning, and peculiar factors relating to such things as the social class of different speakers, etc.
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Can you address the question tag (etymology) somehow?
– iBug
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My guess is it's extremely unlikely anyone could say exactly why the specific word can happens to lack the specific forms infinitive, future tense, participle, imperative, and gerund. Not all defective verbs lack the same forms, anyway, but I suppose at least sometimes the etymological background has something in common with other irregular verbs. For example, I don't hear people saying to be is "defective", but obviously there must be some kind of reason why Anglophones decided that I be a yokel was to be laughed out of (Norman conqueror) court.
– FumbleFingers
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I think the "could" example in there is confusing/unhelpful. Why say those sentences have the same meaning, when the rest of the sentence explains that they don't always?
– 1006a
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@1006a: I suppose the writer thought it might be even more confusing if he'd dotted the i's and crossed the t's with "I could write and I was able to write could have the same meaning". But even as "standalone" sentences, they might not - they'd both mean exactly the same in the context of a preceding sentence such as I had one big advantage when I started infant's school, but not if preceded by I certainly wouldn't be bored if I had a pen and paper.
– FumbleFingers
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The reason is that standard English prohibits the use of double modals, which 'can' and 'will' both are, as addressed in this post. Some dialects, like my own, incorporate double modals like 'might could,' 'might should,' 'ought to should,' etc. but I don't believe I've ever heard 'will can.'
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Can is part of the set of verbs called the 'Preterite-present' (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanic_verb#Preterite-presents). This essentially means that the form can was originally a past tense form which has now taken on a present tense meaning. It betrays its past tense origin in English because it lacks the third person singular s (compare he holds vs he held); other languages offer even more proof (e.g. the vowel shift between Dutch singular kan and plural kunnen).
For reasons unknown to me, English modals did not 'develop' new infintival forms. This did happen in Dutch, German, Swedish, ... which is why he will can is perfectly possible in those languages (hij zal kunnen/er wird können/han ska kunna). Can as it is now still 'functions' as a past tense form and much like how you can't say he will held, you can't say he will can. As others have pointed out, this makes the verb defective.
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For this question that might be a Rhetorical question: The answer is that the future tense of the word can is could. For example: You could accept this answer in the future, if you still can, but you probably can't for some reason, if you missed the exact time and date that you could have accepted this answer. And also The word Could is used as a future tense of the word can, Could have is used as a past tense of the word can.
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The OP can accept this answer tomorrow or even next week. But I don't think they will.
– Mari-Lou A
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It's just an example of. And you answered it, but why?
– jehovahsays
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You cannot say that could is the “future tense” of can, it is misinformation.
– Mari-Lou A
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'could' is the simple past of 'can'. In your example it is used to form the conditional.
– chasly from UK
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The word Could is used as a future tense of the word can, Could have is used as a past tense of the word can.
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This is a good example of the problems caused by lying to students in saying that will is "The Future Tense". There is no future tense in English. There is likewise no perfect tense, no progressive tense, no pluperfect tense, no future perfect tense. There are also no moods or voices. No matter what you've been taught. Sorry about that.
What English has is a present tense and a past tense, both managed by suffix or root change (deletes/deleted, drives/drove). That's it for tenses. There are various constructions like the Perfect construction, the Progressive construction, the Passive construction, etc. All of them take several words and don't require endings or prefixes, and word order is important.
One of the constructions that occurs in practically every sentence is the Verb Phrase, which usually starts with an auxiliary verb of some sort: some form of be or have for Perfect, Passive, or Progressive, and, at the beginning of the verb phrase, a modal auxiliary verb. When modals occur, they are always at the beginning of the verb phrase, because they only have one form (they are "defective verbs"), and that form is not an infinitive form or a participle form, so it can't go after be or have as the constructions require.
This results in modal auxiliaries always occurring alone at the beginning of a verb phrase -- or inverted with the subject in questions -- whenever they occur; and it also has the effect of limiting modals to one per verb phrase, at the beginning.
Why is this relevant to the "future tense"? Because what students are erroneously taught is not that will is one of the modal auxiliaries, and therefore behaves like can, may, must, should, would, could in not appearing together, but rather that will is "The Future Tense", a different category entirely, which can apply to anything, including uninflectable modal auxiliaries like can. Hence the question.
The answer is that English has special constructions that mean the same as modals, but have infinitive and participle forms, so they can be used in past tense, or in the Perfect or Progressive. These are called Periphrastic Modals, and the one associated with can in the sense you indicate is be able to.
That is, one can't say
- *I will/should can do that by next year.
but one can say, with the same intended meaning,
- I will/should be able to do that by next year.
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German also has only Present and Past tenses. It does have a Subjunctive Mood, however, also managed by affixes and roots. And the German modal auxiliary verbs are not defective, but have full paradigms, so they can be doubled in constructions ad libitum.
– John Lawler
18 hours ago
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@iBug Yes, it’s the same. All Germanic languages have only present and past as far as tenses go. The statement in this answer that there are no moods in English is not uncontroversial, however; to the extent that there is any agreement on what ‘moods’ are (their definition varies an awful lot), there are many linguists who do consider that English has at least two moods (imperative and indicative), and also many that consider it to have three (adding the subjunctive).
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
18 hours ago
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I call BS on your assertion that English doesn't have moods or voices. Were it to lack voices, this sentence would not be possible. Don't try to tell me that the previous sentence is past tense, nor that it's just present tense (indicative mood/voice; you can argue it isn't a mood or you that it isn't a voice, but it has to be one of them or their functional equivalent), for it's clearly neither of those.
– Monty Harder
16 hours ago
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@Sabuncu there are several posts on EL&U which talk about this feature Is it true that English has no future tense? and In place of a future tense, English can express the future in the following ways:…
– Mari-Lou A
14 hours ago
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@Sabuncu one more for the road Whose tense is it, anyway?
– Mari-Lou A
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This is a good example of the problems caused by lying to students in saying that will is "The Future Tense". There is no future tense in English. There is likewise no perfect tense, no progressive tense, no pluperfect tense, no future perfect tense. There are also no moods or voices. No matter what you've been taught. Sorry about that.
What English has is a present tense and a past tense, both managed by suffix or root change (deletes/deleted, drives/drove). That's it for tenses. There are various constructions like the Perfect construction, the Progressive construction, the Passive construction, etc. All of them take several words and don't require endings or prefixes, and word order is important.
One of the constructions that occurs in practically every sentence is the Verb Phrase, which usually starts with an auxiliary verb of some sort: some form of be or have for Perfect, Passive, or Progressive, and, at the beginning of the verb phrase, a modal auxiliary verb. When modals occur, they are always at the beginning of the verb phrase, because they only have one form (they are "defective verbs"), and that form is not an infinitive form or a participle form, so it can't go after be or have as the constructions require.
This results in modal auxiliaries always occurring alone at the beginning of a verb phrase -- or inverted with the subject in questions -- whenever they occur; and it also has the effect of limiting modals to one per verb phrase, at the beginning.
Why is this relevant to the "future tense"? Because what students are erroneously taught is not that will is one of the modal auxiliaries, and therefore behaves like can, may, must, should, would, could in not appearing together, but rather that will is "The Future Tense", a different category entirely, which can apply to anything, including uninflectable modal auxiliaries like can. Hence the question.
The answer is that English has special constructions that mean the same as modals, but have infinitive and participle forms, so they can be used in past tense, or in the Perfect or Progressive. These are called Periphrastic Modals, and the one associated with can in the sense you indicate is be able to.
That is, one can't say
- *I will/should can do that by next year.
but one can say, with the same intended meaning,
- I will/should be able to do that by next year.
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German also has only Present and Past tenses. It does have a Subjunctive Mood, however, also managed by affixes and roots. And the German modal auxiliary verbs are not defective, but have full paradigms, so they can be doubled in constructions ad libitum.
– John Lawler
18 hours ago
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@iBug Yes, it’s the same. All Germanic languages have only present and past as far as tenses go. The statement in this answer that there are no moods in English is not uncontroversial, however; to the extent that there is any agreement on what ‘moods’ are (their definition varies an awful lot), there are many linguists who do consider that English has at least two moods (imperative and indicative), and also many that consider it to have three (adding the subjunctive).
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
18 hours ago
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I call BS on your assertion that English doesn't have moods or voices. Were it to lack voices, this sentence would not be possible. Don't try to tell me that the previous sentence is past tense, nor that it's just present tense (indicative mood/voice; you can argue it isn't a mood or you that it isn't a voice, but it has to be one of them or their functional equivalent), for it's clearly neither of those.
– Monty Harder
16 hours ago
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@Sabuncu there are several posts on EL&U which talk about this feature Is it true that English has no future tense? and In place of a future tense, English can express the future in the following ways:…
– Mari-Lou A
14 hours ago
2
@Sabuncu one more for the road Whose tense is it, anyway?
– Mari-Lou A
13 hours ago
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This is a good example of the problems caused by lying to students in saying that will is "The Future Tense". There is no future tense in English. There is likewise no perfect tense, no progressive tense, no pluperfect tense, no future perfect tense. There are also no moods or voices. No matter what you've been taught. Sorry about that.
What English has is a present tense and a past tense, both managed by suffix or root change (deletes/deleted, drives/drove). That's it for tenses. There are various constructions like the Perfect construction, the Progressive construction, the Passive construction, etc. All of them take several words and don't require endings or prefixes, and word order is important.
One of the constructions that occurs in practically every sentence is the Verb Phrase, which usually starts with an auxiliary verb of some sort: some form of be or have for Perfect, Passive, or Progressive, and, at the beginning of the verb phrase, a modal auxiliary verb. When modals occur, they are always at the beginning of the verb phrase, because they only have one form (they are "defective verbs"), and that form is not an infinitive form or a participle form, so it can't go after be or have as the constructions require.
This results in modal auxiliaries always occurring alone at the beginning of a verb phrase -- or inverted with the subject in questions -- whenever they occur; and it also has the effect of limiting modals to one per verb phrase, at the beginning.
Why is this relevant to the "future tense"? Because what students are erroneously taught is not that will is one of the modal auxiliaries, and therefore behaves like can, may, must, should, would, could in not appearing together, but rather that will is "The Future Tense", a different category entirely, which can apply to anything, including uninflectable modal auxiliaries like can. Hence the question.
The answer is that English has special constructions that mean the same as modals, but have infinitive and participle forms, so they can be used in past tense, or in the Perfect or Progressive. These are called Periphrastic Modals, and the one associated with can in the sense you indicate is be able to.
That is, one can't say
- *I will/should can do that by next year.
but one can say, with the same intended meaning,
- I will/should be able to do that by next year.
This is a good example of the problems caused by lying to students in saying that will is "The Future Tense". There is no future tense in English. There is likewise no perfect tense, no progressive tense, no pluperfect tense, no future perfect tense. There are also no moods or voices. No matter what you've been taught. Sorry about that.
What English has is a present tense and a past tense, both managed by suffix or root change (deletes/deleted, drives/drove). That's it for tenses. There are various constructions like the Perfect construction, the Progressive construction, the Passive construction, etc. All of them take several words and don't require endings or prefixes, and word order is important.
One of the constructions that occurs in practically every sentence is the Verb Phrase, which usually starts with an auxiliary verb of some sort: some form of be or have for Perfect, Passive, or Progressive, and, at the beginning of the verb phrase, a modal auxiliary verb. When modals occur, they are always at the beginning of the verb phrase, because they only have one form (they are "defective verbs"), and that form is not an infinitive form or a participle form, so it can't go after be or have as the constructions require.
This results in modal auxiliaries always occurring alone at the beginning of a verb phrase -- or inverted with the subject in questions -- whenever they occur; and it also has the effect of limiting modals to one per verb phrase, at the beginning.
Why is this relevant to the "future tense"? Because what students are erroneously taught is not that will is one of the modal auxiliaries, and therefore behaves like can, may, must, should, would, could in not appearing together, but rather that will is "The Future Tense", a different category entirely, which can apply to anything, including uninflectable modal auxiliaries like can. Hence the question.
The answer is that English has special constructions that mean the same as modals, but have infinitive and participle forms, so they can be used in past tense, or in the Perfect or Progressive. These are called Periphrastic Modals, and the one associated with can in the sense you indicate is be able to.
That is, one can't say
- *I will/should can do that by next year.
but one can say, with the same intended meaning,
- I will/should be able to do that by next year.
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German also has only Present and Past tenses. It does have a Subjunctive Mood, however, also managed by affixes and roots. And the German modal auxiliary verbs are not defective, but have full paradigms, so they can be doubled in constructions ad libitum.
– John Lawler
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@iBug Yes, it’s the same. All Germanic languages have only present and past as far as tenses go. The statement in this answer that there are no moods in English is not uncontroversial, however; to the extent that there is any agreement on what ‘moods’ are (their definition varies an awful lot), there are many linguists who do consider that English has at least two moods (imperative and indicative), and also many that consider it to have three (adding the subjunctive).
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
18 hours ago
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I call BS on your assertion that English doesn't have moods or voices. Were it to lack voices, this sentence would not be possible. Don't try to tell me that the previous sentence is past tense, nor that it's just present tense (indicative mood/voice; you can argue it isn't a mood or you that it isn't a voice, but it has to be one of them or their functional equivalent), for it's clearly neither of those.
– Monty Harder
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@Sabuncu there are several posts on EL&U which talk about this feature Is it true that English has no future tense? and In place of a future tense, English can express the future in the following ways:…
– Mari-Lou A
14 hours ago
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@Sabuncu one more for the road Whose tense is it, anyway?
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German also has only Present and Past tenses. It does have a Subjunctive Mood, however, also managed by affixes and roots. And the German modal auxiliary verbs are not defective, but have full paradigms, so they can be doubled in constructions ad libitum.
– John Lawler
18 hours ago
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@iBug Yes, it’s the same. All Germanic languages have only present and past as far as tenses go. The statement in this answer that there are no moods in English is not uncontroversial, however; to the extent that there is any agreement on what ‘moods’ are (their definition varies an awful lot), there are many linguists who do consider that English has at least two moods (imperative and indicative), and also many that consider it to have three (adding the subjunctive).
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
18 hours ago
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I call BS on your assertion that English doesn't have moods or voices. Were it to lack voices, this sentence would not be possible. Don't try to tell me that the previous sentence is past tense, nor that it's just present tense (indicative mood/voice; you can argue it isn't a mood or you that it isn't a voice, but it has to be one of them or their functional equivalent), for it's clearly neither of those.
– Monty Harder
16 hours ago
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@Sabuncu there are several posts on EL&U which talk about this feature Is it true that English has no future tense? and In place of a future tense, English can express the future in the following ways:…
– Mari-Lou A
14 hours ago
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@Sabuncu one more for the road Whose tense is it, anyway?
– Mari-Lou A
13 hours ago
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German also has only Present and Past tenses. It does have a Subjunctive Mood, however, also managed by affixes and roots. And the German modal auxiliary verbs are not defective, but have full paradigms, so they can be doubled in constructions ad libitum.
– John Lawler
18 hours ago
German also has only Present and Past tenses. It does have a Subjunctive Mood, however, also managed by affixes and roots. And the German modal auxiliary verbs are not defective, but have full paradigms, so they can be doubled in constructions ad libitum.
– John Lawler
18 hours ago
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@iBug Yes, it’s the same. All Germanic languages have only present and past as far as tenses go. The statement in this answer that there are no moods in English is not uncontroversial, however; to the extent that there is any agreement on what ‘moods’ are (their definition varies an awful lot), there are many linguists who do consider that English has at least two moods (imperative and indicative), and also many that consider it to have three (adding the subjunctive).
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
18 hours ago
@iBug Yes, it’s the same. All Germanic languages have only present and past as far as tenses go. The statement in this answer that there are no moods in English is not uncontroversial, however; to the extent that there is any agreement on what ‘moods’ are (their definition varies an awful lot), there are many linguists who do consider that English has at least two moods (imperative and indicative), and also many that consider it to have three (adding the subjunctive).
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
18 hours ago
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I call BS on your assertion that English doesn't have moods or voices. Were it to lack voices, this sentence would not be possible. Don't try to tell me that the previous sentence is past tense, nor that it's just present tense (indicative mood/voice; you can argue it isn't a mood or you that it isn't a voice, but it has to be one of them or their functional equivalent), for it's clearly neither of those.
– Monty Harder
16 hours ago
I call BS on your assertion that English doesn't have moods or voices. Were it to lack voices, this sentence would not be possible. Don't try to tell me that the previous sentence is past tense, nor that it's just present tense (indicative mood/voice; you can argue it isn't a mood or you that it isn't a voice, but it has to be one of them or their functional equivalent), for it's clearly neither of those.
– Monty Harder
16 hours ago
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@Sabuncu there are several posts on EL&U which talk about this feature Is it true that English has no future tense? and In place of a future tense, English can express the future in the following ways:…
– Mari-Lou A
14 hours ago
@Sabuncu there are several posts on EL&U which talk about this feature Is it true that English has no future tense? and In place of a future tense, English can express the future in the following ways:…
– Mari-Lou A
14 hours ago
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@Sabuncu one more for the road Whose tense is it, anyway?
– Mari-Lou A
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@Sabuncu one more for the road Whose tense is it, anyway?
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Per Wikipedia, can is a "defective verb"...
For example, can lacks an infinitive, future tense, participle, imperative, and gerund. The missing parts of speech are instead supplied by using the appropriate forms of to be plus able to. So, while I could write and I was able to write have the same meaning, I could has two meanings depending on use, which are I was able to or I would be able to. One cannot say I will can, which is instead expressed as I will be able to.
As you'll see from that Wikipedia article, many other languages (including French and German as mentioned by OP) have defective verbs. But there's no particular reason why they should be the same verbs in different languages, since the reason for their existence at all (natural language variation over time) will depend very much on individual circumstances relating to time, place, meaning, and peculiar factors relating to such things as the social class of different speakers, etc.
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Can you address the question tag (etymology) somehow?
– iBug
18 hours ago
My guess is it's extremely unlikely anyone could say exactly why the specific word can happens to lack the specific forms infinitive, future tense, participle, imperative, and gerund. Not all defective verbs lack the same forms, anyway, but I suppose at least sometimes the etymological background has something in common with other irregular verbs. For example, I don't hear people saying to be is "defective", but obviously there must be some kind of reason why Anglophones decided that I be a yokel was to be laughed out of (Norman conqueror) court.
– FumbleFingers
18 hours ago
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I think the "could" example in there is confusing/unhelpful. Why say those sentences have the same meaning, when the rest of the sentence explains that they don't always?
– 1006a
17 hours ago
@1006a: I suppose the writer thought it might be even more confusing if he'd dotted the i's and crossed the t's with "I could write and I was able to write could have the same meaning". But even as "standalone" sentences, they might not - they'd both mean exactly the same in the context of a preceding sentence such as I had one big advantage when I started infant's school, but not if preceded by I certainly wouldn't be bored if I had a pen and paper.
– FumbleFingers
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Per Wikipedia, can is a "defective verb"...
For example, can lacks an infinitive, future tense, participle, imperative, and gerund. The missing parts of speech are instead supplied by using the appropriate forms of to be plus able to. So, while I could write and I was able to write have the same meaning, I could has two meanings depending on use, which are I was able to or I would be able to. One cannot say I will can, which is instead expressed as I will be able to.
As you'll see from that Wikipedia article, many other languages (including French and German as mentioned by OP) have defective verbs. But there's no particular reason why they should be the same verbs in different languages, since the reason for their existence at all (natural language variation over time) will depend very much on individual circumstances relating to time, place, meaning, and peculiar factors relating to such things as the social class of different speakers, etc.
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Can you address the question tag (etymology) somehow?
– iBug
18 hours ago
My guess is it's extremely unlikely anyone could say exactly why the specific word can happens to lack the specific forms infinitive, future tense, participle, imperative, and gerund. Not all defective verbs lack the same forms, anyway, but I suppose at least sometimes the etymological background has something in common with other irregular verbs. For example, I don't hear people saying to be is "defective", but obviously there must be some kind of reason why Anglophones decided that I be a yokel was to be laughed out of (Norman conqueror) court.
– FumbleFingers
18 hours ago
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I think the "could" example in there is confusing/unhelpful. Why say those sentences have the same meaning, when the rest of the sentence explains that they don't always?
– 1006a
17 hours ago
@1006a: I suppose the writer thought it might be even more confusing if he'd dotted the i's and crossed the t's with "I could write and I was able to write could have the same meaning". But even as "standalone" sentences, they might not - they'd both mean exactly the same in the context of a preceding sentence such as I had one big advantage when I started infant's school, but not if preceded by I certainly wouldn't be bored if I had a pen and paper.
– FumbleFingers
16 hours ago
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Per Wikipedia, can is a "defective verb"...
For example, can lacks an infinitive, future tense, participle, imperative, and gerund. The missing parts of speech are instead supplied by using the appropriate forms of to be plus able to. So, while I could write and I was able to write have the same meaning, I could has two meanings depending on use, which are I was able to or I would be able to. One cannot say I will can, which is instead expressed as I will be able to.
As you'll see from that Wikipedia article, many other languages (including French and German as mentioned by OP) have defective verbs. But there's no particular reason why they should be the same verbs in different languages, since the reason for their existence at all (natural language variation over time) will depend very much on individual circumstances relating to time, place, meaning, and peculiar factors relating to such things as the social class of different speakers, etc.
Per Wikipedia, can is a "defective verb"...
For example, can lacks an infinitive, future tense, participle, imperative, and gerund. The missing parts of speech are instead supplied by using the appropriate forms of to be plus able to. So, while I could write and I was able to write have the same meaning, I could has two meanings depending on use, which are I was able to or I would be able to. One cannot say I will can, which is instead expressed as I will be able to.
As you'll see from that Wikipedia article, many other languages (including French and German as mentioned by OP) have defective verbs. But there's no particular reason why they should be the same verbs in different languages, since the reason for their existence at all (natural language variation over time) will depend very much on individual circumstances relating to time, place, meaning, and peculiar factors relating to such things as the social class of different speakers, etc.
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Can you address the question tag (etymology) somehow?
– iBug
18 hours ago
My guess is it's extremely unlikely anyone could say exactly why the specific word can happens to lack the specific forms infinitive, future tense, participle, imperative, and gerund. Not all defective verbs lack the same forms, anyway, but I suppose at least sometimes the etymological background has something in common with other irregular verbs. For example, I don't hear people saying to be is "defective", but obviously there must be some kind of reason why Anglophones decided that I be a yokel was to be laughed out of (Norman conqueror) court.
– FumbleFingers
18 hours ago
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I think the "could" example in there is confusing/unhelpful. Why say those sentences have the same meaning, when the rest of the sentence explains that they don't always?
– 1006a
17 hours ago
@1006a: I suppose the writer thought it might be even more confusing if he'd dotted the i's and crossed the t's with "I could write and I was able to write could have the same meaning". But even as "standalone" sentences, they might not - they'd both mean exactly the same in the context of a preceding sentence such as I had one big advantage when I started infant's school, but not if preceded by I certainly wouldn't be bored if I had a pen and paper.
– FumbleFingers
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Can you address the question tag (etymology) somehow?
– iBug
18 hours ago
My guess is it's extremely unlikely anyone could say exactly why the specific word can happens to lack the specific forms infinitive, future tense, participle, imperative, and gerund. Not all defective verbs lack the same forms, anyway, but I suppose at least sometimes the etymological background has something in common with other irregular verbs. For example, I don't hear people saying to be is "defective", but obviously there must be some kind of reason why Anglophones decided that I be a yokel was to be laughed out of (Norman conqueror) court.
– FumbleFingers
18 hours ago
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I think the "could" example in there is confusing/unhelpful. Why say those sentences have the same meaning, when the rest of the sentence explains that they don't always?
– 1006a
17 hours ago
@1006a: I suppose the writer thought it might be even more confusing if he'd dotted the i's and crossed the t's with "I could write and I was able to write could have the same meaning". But even as "standalone" sentences, they might not - they'd both mean exactly the same in the context of a preceding sentence such as I had one big advantage when I started infant's school, but not if preceded by I certainly wouldn't be bored if I had a pen and paper.
– FumbleFingers
16 hours ago
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Can you address the question tag (etymology) somehow?
– iBug
18 hours ago
Can you address the question tag (etymology) somehow?
– iBug
18 hours ago
My guess is it's extremely unlikely anyone could say exactly why the specific word can happens to lack the specific forms infinitive, future tense, participle, imperative, and gerund. Not all defective verbs lack the same forms, anyway, but I suppose at least sometimes the etymological background has something in common with other irregular verbs. For example, I don't hear people saying to be is "defective", but obviously there must be some kind of reason why Anglophones decided that I be a yokel was to be laughed out of (Norman conqueror) court.
– FumbleFingers
18 hours ago
My guess is it's extremely unlikely anyone could say exactly why the specific word can happens to lack the specific forms infinitive, future tense, participle, imperative, and gerund. Not all defective verbs lack the same forms, anyway, but I suppose at least sometimes the etymological background has something in common with other irregular verbs. For example, I don't hear people saying to be is "defective", but obviously there must be some kind of reason why Anglophones decided that I be a yokel was to be laughed out of (Norman conqueror) court.
– FumbleFingers
18 hours ago
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I think the "could" example in there is confusing/unhelpful. Why say those sentences have the same meaning, when the rest of the sentence explains that they don't always?
– 1006a
17 hours ago
I think the "could" example in there is confusing/unhelpful. Why say those sentences have the same meaning, when the rest of the sentence explains that they don't always?
– 1006a
17 hours ago
@1006a: I suppose the writer thought it might be even more confusing if he'd dotted the i's and crossed the t's with "I could write and I was able to write could have the same meaning". But even as "standalone" sentences, they might not - they'd both mean exactly the same in the context of a preceding sentence such as I had one big advantage when I started infant's school, but not if preceded by I certainly wouldn't be bored if I had a pen and paper.
– FumbleFingers
16 hours ago
@1006a: I suppose the writer thought it might be even more confusing if he'd dotted the i's and crossed the t's with "I could write and I was able to write could have the same meaning". But even as "standalone" sentences, they might not - they'd both mean exactly the same in the context of a preceding sentence such as I had one big advantage when I started infant's school, but not if preceded by I certainly wouldn't be bored if I had a pen and paper.
– FumbleFingers
16 hours ago
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The reason is that standard English prohibits the use of double modals, which 'can' and 'will' both are, as addressed in this post. Some dialects, like my own, incorporate double modals like 'might could,' 'might should,' 'ought to should,' etc. but I don't believe I've ever heard 'will can.'
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The reason is that standard English prohibits the use of double modals, which 'can' and 'will' both are, as addressed in this post. Some dialects, like my own, incorporate double modals like 'might could,' 'might should,' 'ought to should,' etc. but I don't believe I've ever heard 'will can.'
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The reason is that standard English prohibits the use of double modals, which 'can' and 'will' both are, as addressed in this post. Some dialects, like my own, incorporate double modals like 'might could,' 'might should,' 'ought to should,' etc. but I don't believe I've ever heard 'will can.'
The reason is that standard English prohibits the use of double modals, which 'can' and 'will' both are, as addressed in this post. Some dialects, like my own, incorporate double modals like 'might could,' 'might should,' 'ought to should,' etc. but I don't believe I've ever heard 'will can.'
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Can is part of the set of verbs called the 'Preterite-present' (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanic_verb#Preterite-presents). This essentially means that the form can was originally a past tense form which has now taken on a present tense meaning. It betrays its past tense origin in English because it lacks the third person singular s (compare he holds vs he held); other languages offer even more proof (e.g. the vowel shift between Dutch singular kan and plural kunnen).
For reasons unknown to me, English modals did not 'develop' new infintival forms. This did happen in Dutch, German, Swedish, ... which is why he will can is perfectly possible in those languages (hij zal kunnen/er wird können/han ska kunna). Can as it is now still 'functions' as a past tense form and much like how you can't say he will held, you can't say he will can. As others have pointed out, this makes the verb defective.
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Can is part of the set of verbs called the 'Preterite-present' (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanic_verb#Preterite-presents). This essentially means that the form can was originally a past tense form which has now taken on a present tense meaning. It betrays its past tense origin in English because it lacks the third person singular s (compare he holds vs he held); other languages offer even more proof (e.g. the vowel shift between Dutch singular kan and plural kunnen).
For reasons unknown to me, English modals did not 'develop' new infintival forms. This did happen in Dutch, German, Swedish, ... which is why he will can is perfectly possible in those languages (hij zal kunnen/er wird können/han ska kunna). Can as it is now still 'functions' as a past tense form and much like how you can't say he will held, you can't say he will can. As others have pointed out, this makes the verb defective.
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Can is part of the set of verbs called the 'Preterite-present' (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanic_verb#Preterite-presents). This essentially means that the form can was originally a past tense form which has now taken on a present tense meaning. It betrays its past tense origin in English because it lacks the third person singular s (compare he holds vs he held); other languages offer even more proof (e.g. the vowel shift between Dutch singular kan and plural kunnen).
For reasons unknown to me, English modals did not 'develop' new infintival forms. This did happen in Dutch, German, Swedish, ... which is why he will can is perfectly possible in those languages (hij zal kunnen/er wird können/han ska kunna). Can as it is now still 'functions' as a past tense form and much like how you can't say he will held, you can't say he will can. As others have pointed out, this makes the verb defective.
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Can is part of the set of verbs called the 'Preterite-present' (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanic_verb#Preterite-presents). This essentially means that the form can was originally a past tense form which has now taken on a present tense meaning. It betrays its past tense origin in English because it lacks the third person singular s (compare he holds vs he held); other languages offer even more proof (e.g. the vowel shift between Dutch singular kan and plural kunnen).
For reasons unknown to me, English modals did not 'develop' new infintival forms. This did happen in Dutch, German, Swedish, ... which is why he will can is perfectly possible in those languages (hij zal kunnen/er wird können/han ska kunna). Can as it is now still 'functions' as a past tense form and much like how you can't say he will held, you can't say he will can. As others have pointed out, this makes the verb defective.
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That was not terribly helpful, was it?
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That was not terribly helpful, was it?
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That was not terribly helpful, was it?
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That was not terribly helpful, was it?
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For this question that might be a Rhetorical question: The answer is that the future tense of the word can is could. For example: You could accept this answer in the future, if you still can, but you probably can't for some reason, if you missed the exact time and date that you could have accepted this answer. And also The word Could is used as a future tense of the word can, Could have is used as a past tense of the word can.
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The OP can accept this answer tomorrow or even next week. But I don't think they will.
– Mari-Lou A
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It's just an example of. And you answered it, but why?
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You cannot say that could is the “future tense” of can, it is misinformation.
– Mari-Lou A
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'could' is the simple past of 'can'. In your example it is used to form the conditional.
– chasly from UK
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The word Could is used as a future tense of the word can, Could have is used as a past tense of the word can.
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For this question that might be a Rhetorical question: The answer is that the future tense of the word can is could. For example: You could accept this answer in the future, if you still can, but you probably can't for some reason, if you missed the exact time and date that you could have accepted this answer. And also The word Could is used as a future tense of the word can, Could have is used as a past tense of the word can.
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The OP can accept this answer tomorrow or even next week. But I don't think they will.
– Mari-Lou A
13 hours ago
It's just an example of. And you answered it, but why?
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You cannot say that could is the “future tense” of can, it is misinformation.
– Mari-Lou A
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'could' is the simple past of 'can'. In your example it is used to form the conditional.
– chasly from UK
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The word Could is used as a future tense of the word can, Could have is used as a past tense of the word can.
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For this question that might be a Rhetorical question: The answer is that the future tense of the word can is could. For example: You could accept this answer in the future, if you still can, but you probably can't for some reason, if you missed the exact time and date that you could have accepted this answer. And also The word Could is used as a future tense of the word can, Could have is used as a past tense of the word can.
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For this question that might be a Rhetorical question: The answer is that the future tense of the word can is could. For example: You could accept this answer in the future, if you still can, but you probably can't for some reason, if you missed the exact time and date that you could have accepted this answer. And also The word Could is used as a future tense of the word can, Could have is used as a past tense of the word can.
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The OP can accept this answer tomorrow or even next week. But I don't think they will.
– Mari-Lou A
13 hours ago
It's just an example of. And you answered it, but why?
– jehovahsays
13 hours ago
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You cannot say that could is the “future tense” of can, it is misinformation.
– Mari-Lou A
13 hours ago
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'could' is the simple past of 'can'. In your example it is used to form the conditional.
– chasly from UK
13 hours ago
The word Could is used as a future tense of the word can, Could have is used as a past tense of the word can.
– jehovahsays
11 hours ago
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The OP can accept this answer tomorrow or even next week. But I don't think they will.
– Mari-Lou A
13 hours ago
It's just an example of. And you answered it, but why?
– jehovahsays
13 hours ago
5
You cannot say that could is the “future tense” of can, it is misinformation.
– Mari-Lou A
13 hours ago
2
'could' is the simple past of 'can'. In your example it is used to form the conditional.
– chasly from UK
13 hours ago
The word Could is used as a future tense of the word can, Could have is used as a past tense of the word can.
– jehovahsays
11 hours ago
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The OP can accept this answer tomorrow or even next week. But I don't think they will.
– Mari-Lou A
13 hours ago
The OP can accept this answer tomorrow or even next week. But I don't think they will.
– Mari-Lou A
13 hours ago
It's just an example of. And you answered it, but why?
– jehovahsays
13 hours ago
It's just an example of. And you answered it, but why?
– jehovahsays
13 hours ago
5
5
You cannot say that could is the “future tense” of can, it is misinformation.
– Mari-Lou A
13 hours ago
You cannot say that could is the “future tense” of can, it is misinformation.
– Mari-Lou A
13 hours ago
2
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'could' is the simple past of 'can'. In your example it is used to form the conditional.
– chasly from UK
13 hours ago
'could' is the simple past of 'can'. In your example it is used to form the conditional.
– chasly from UK
13 hours ago
The word Could is used as a future tense of the word can, Could have is used as a past tense of the word can.
– jehovahsays
11 hours ago
The word Could is used as a future tense of the word can, Could have is used as a past tense of the word can.
– jehovahsays
11 hours ago
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To my ear, it sounds like you're going to throw something out. As in: "If it gets too cost-prohibitive, I will can that idea."
– Ian MacDonald
19 hours ago
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Yes, I understood that. I'm just suggesting that perhaps people don't say it because of the other meaning of that pairing.
– Ian MacDonald
19 hours ago
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"Why" questions about English grammar? Do not expect logical answers.
– GEdgar
19 hours ago
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I think the reason is that standard English prohibits the use of double modals, as addressed in this post: english.stackexchange.com/questions/3211/…. Some dialects, like my own, incorporate double modals like 'might could,' 'might should,' 'should ought to,' etc. but I don't believe I've ever heard 'will can.'
– eenbeetje
19 hours ago
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@JanusBahsJacquet 'Why' questions, though ostensibly about motivation (as though there is some conscious designer of a language, and 'why' asks for that person's reasons), usually turn out to be adequately answered by a description of history (what actually happened to change or not), and then comparing with similar situations (this other pattern did a similar thing). So it is often descriptive rather than explanatory. Sometimes there are actual explanations (vowel rotations, filling lexical gaps, etc) but often history is all there is. Appeals to laziness are often... lazy.
– Mitch
17 hours ago