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Relative to this simple drawing, can someone explain to me,
- in which direction is the sun and its solar system travelling,
- which star (irrespective of distance) is closest to that direction,
- and in which direction the milky way center is.
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Relative to this simple drawing, can someone explain to me,
- in which direction is the sun and its solar system travelling,
- which star (irrespective of distance) is closest to that direction,
- and in which direction the milky way center is.
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Closest to that direction is kind of a misnomer here... The sun's closest stellar neighbors are three stars in the Alpha Centauri system, moving at 18.6±1.64 km/s. We're moving at 19.1 km/s. But with expansion and other factors, I don't know, someone smarter can talk about "direction", which I'm assuming you mean "direction relative to the center of our galaxy".
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Relative to this simple drawing, can someone explain to me,
- in which direction is the sun and its solar system travelling,
- which star (irrespective of distance) is closest to that direction,
- and in which direction the milky way center is.
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Relative to this simple drawing, can someone explain to me,
- in which direction is the sun and its solar system travelling,
- which star (irrespective of distance) is closest to that direction,
- and in which direction the milky way center is.
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Closest to that direction is kind of a misnomer here... The sun's closest stellar neighbors are three stars in the Alpha Centauri system, moving at 18.6±1.64 km/s. We're moving at 19.1 km/s. But with expansion and other factors, I don't know, someone smarter can talk about "direction", which I'm assuming you mean "direction relative to the center of our galaxy".
– Magic Octopus Urn
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Closest to that direction is kind of a misnomer here... The sun's closest stellar neighbors are three stars in the Alpha Centauri system, moving at 18.6±1.64 km/s. We're moving at 19.1 km/s. But with expansion and other factors, I don't know, someone smarter can talk about "direction", which I'm assuming you mean "direction relative to the center of our galaxy".
– Magic Octopus Urn
12 hours ago
Closest to that direction is kind of a misnomer here... The sun's closest stellar neighbors are three stars in the Alpha Centauri system, moving at 18.6±1.64 km/s. We're moving at 19.1 km/s. But with expansion and other factors, I don't know, someone smarter can talk about "direction", which I'm assuming you mean "direction relative to the center of our galaxy".
– Magic Octopus Urn
12 hours ago
Closest to that direction is kind of a misnomer here... The sun's closest stellar neighbors are three stars in the Alpha Centauri system, moving at 18.6±1.64 km/s. We're moving at 19.1 km/s. But with expansion and other factors, I don't know, someone smarter can talk about "direction", which I'm assuming you mean "direction relative to the center of our galaxy".
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The direction of solar motion is referred to as the solar apex. It is at around RA=18h28m and Dec=+30d in the constellation of Hercules (you can see a map on the page linked to). Note that this is the direction in which you would see the "star wars" effect of onrushing stars diverging from the apex point.
I cannot explain relative to a 2-dimensional cartoon of the Earth's orbit where that is. However, if you look at the map below (produced by Christian Ready), you can judge where the solar apex is with respect to the ecliptic plane (green line), which is roughly the path (drawn in your diagram) that the Earth takes around the Sun.
The very bright star Vega is reasonably close to this direction.
The Milky way centre is at RA=17h45m, Dec=-29d in the constellation of Sagittarius. In Galactic coordinates (see Best approximation for Sun's trajectory around galactic center? ) the Sun moves at about 10 km/s towards the Galactic centre, about 5 km/s faster than the average circular speed (which is itself about 220 km/s) of local stars in the tangential direction and 7 km/s upwards out of the Galactic plane.
so, our direction of travel is "just" 60 degrees off from the center of the milky way? that means we are moving towards it? if our movement was split in two vectors, how fast are we moving towards the center vs perpendicular to it?
– Alonda
11 hours ago
@Alonda You have misunderstood what the solar apex is. It shows the velocity relative to local stars. I have added to the answer
– Rob Jeffries
9 hours ago
actually I realized that from reading the solar apex page. guess I didnt specify the question well enough. but your addition provided the exact answer I was after. my original question was much about which part of the sky is the "nose" of our solar system "spaceship", where we smash into new galactic debris.
– Alonda
9 hours ago
now I also find the vectors interesting... as I am not good at math, if I may ask... our solar system is in an elliptical orbit around the galaxy center, where we are currently moving towards our galactic perigee? how long will it take before we get there and how close to the galactic center will we get? and how far out is the apogee?
– Alonda
9 hours ago
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@Alonda The orbit is not Keplerian and not elliptical. Roughly, the sun is on a circular orbit with epicycles in and out with a period of 150 Myr and up and down on a period of 70 Myr. Roughly, $sim 10$ km/s inwards for 50 Myr is 500pc. So nowhere near the GC at 8000pc.
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1) and 2) The direction that the Sun is moving is known as the Solar Apex. This Wikipedia article shows a star map, so you can decide which star you want to say is closest. Solar Apex
3) The center of the Milky Way is toward the constellation of Sagittarius.
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Relative to your drawing, the sun is moving north-ish:
The solar system is tilted about 60 degrees of the milky way plane, on which it's moving around like everyone else.
To know which star is closest, you'd have to define what "closest" mean. Are we setting a straight line and seeing if it hits any star? If a start is 50 light years away from that straight line and 100 light years away from the sun, is that closer than a start that's 5 light years away from line but 800 light years away from the sun?
The milky way center is to the right of the path the sun is moving on. But I don't know the location when earth is at winter solstice, and you didn't specify northern hemisphere's winter or southern hemisphere's. ;-)
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the animation is a bit confusing. after rob jeffries answer i thought Sol was travelling 60deg off from earths north pole, the animation seems to show the opposite? by closest star I meant, if you had a laser pointer aimed at the direction of travel, which star or stars would be visually closest to the beam. it seems vega is a good answer for me.
– Alonda
4 hours ago
My understanding is that the solar system is tilted 60 degrees from the milky way plane. I'm not sure relative to earth's north pole, since earth is also tilted itself relative to the solar system plane. But the animation doesn't show in which way earth is tilted either, so you can't say the animation is following or not the tilt relative to earth's north pole. ;)
– msb
4 hours ago
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I assume the planets orbit the sun counterclockwise... that would make the sun in the animation move in the direction of its south pole. unless my brain malfunctioned.
– Alonda
3 hours ago
Oh! That's a good point. Not what I understood from your first comment, but I see what you mean now. Either the sun is travelling south, or the animation is wrong, then either the plane is tilted 60 degrees to the wrong side or the planets are rotating to the wrong side. Good catch! I'm at work now, I'll do a better research later and answer this properly. I'm quite curious about it too. :D Rob Jeffries's answer is very informative, but not straight to the point relative to your questions, hopefully I'll get the straight answers we want. ;)
– msb
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The direction of solar motion is referred to as the solar apex. It is at around RA=18h28m and Dec=+30d in the constellation of Hercules (you can see a map on the page linked to). Note that this is the direction in which you would see the "star wars" effect of onrushing stars diverging from the apex point.
I cannot explain relative to a 2-dimensional cartoon of the Earth's orbit where that is. However, if you look at the map below (produced by Christian Ready), you can judge where the solar apex is with respect to the ecliptic plane (green line), which is roughly the path (drawn in your diagram) that the Earth takes around the Sun.
The very bright star Vega is reasonably close to this direction.
The Milky way centre is at RA=17h45m, Dec=-29d in the constellation of Sagittarius. In Galactic coordinates (see Best approximation for Sun's trajectory around galactic center? ) the Sun moves at about 10 km/s towards the Galactic centre, about 5 km/s faster than the average circular speed (which is itself about 220 km/s) of local stars in the tangential direction and 7 km/s upwards out of the Galactic plane.
so, our direction of travel is "just" 60 degrees off from the center of the milky way? that means we are moving towards it? if our movement was split in two vectors, how fast are we moving towards the center vs perpendicular to it?
– Alonda
11 hours ago
@Alonda You have misunderstood what the solar apex is. It shows the velocity relative to local stars. I have added to the answer
– Rob Jeffries
9 hours ago
actually I realized that from reading the solar apex page. guess I didnt specify the question well enough. but your addition provided the exact answer I was after. my original question was much about which part of the sky is the "nose" of our solar system "spaceship", where we smash into new galactic debris.
– Alonda
9 hours ago
now I also find the vectors interesting... as I am not good at math, if I may ask... our solar system is in an elliptical orbit around the galaxy center, where we are currently moving towards our galactic perigee? how long will it take before we get there and how close to the galactic center will we get? and how far out is the apogee?
– Alonda
9 hours ago
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@Alonda The orbit is not Keplerian and not elliptical. Roughly, the sun is on a circular orbit with epicycles in and out with a period of 150 Myr and up and down on a period of 70 Myr. Roughly, $sim 10$ km/s inwards for 50 Myr is 500pc. So nowhere near the GC at 8000pc.
– Rob Jeffries
8 hours ago
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The direction of solar motion is referred to as the solar apex. It is at around RA=18h28m and Dec=+30d in the constellation of Hercules (you can see a map on the page linked to). Note that this is the direction in which you would see the "star wars" effect of onrushing stars diverging from the apex point.
I cannot explain relative to a 2-dimensional cartoon of the Earth's orbit where that is. However, if you look at the map below (produced by Christian Ready), you can judge where the solar apex is with respect to the ecliptic plane (green line), which is roughly the path (drawn in your diagram) that the Earth takes around the Sun.
The very bright star Vega is reasonably close to this direction.
The Milky way centre is at RA=17h45m, Dec=-29d in the constellation of Sagittarius. In Galactic coordinates (see Best approximation for Sun's trajectory around galactic center? ) the Sun moves at about 10 km/s towards the Galactic centre, about 5 km/s faster than the average circular speed (which is itself about 220 km/s) of local stars in the tangential direction and 7 km/s upwards out of the Galactic plane.
so, our direction of travel is "just" 60 degrees off from the center of the milky way? that means we are moving towards it? if our movement was split in two vectors, how fast are we moving towards the center vs perpendicular to it?
– Alonda
11 hours ago
@Alonda You have misunderstood what the solar apex is. It shows the velocity relative to local stars. I have added to the answer
– Rob Jeffries
9 hours ago
actually I realized that from reading the solar apex page. guess I didnt specify the question well enough. but your addition provided the exact answer I was after. my original question was much about which part of the sky is the "nose" of our solar system "spaceship", where we smash into new galactic debris.
– Alonda
9 hours ago
now I also find the vectors interesting... as I am not good at math, if I may ask... our solar system is in an elliptical orbit around the galaxy center, where we are currently moving towards our galactic perigee? how long will it take before we get there and how close to the galactic center will we get? and how far out is the apogee?
– Alonda
9 hours ago
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@Alonda The orbit is not Keplerian and not elliptical. Roughly, the sun is on a circular orbit with epicycles in and out with a period of 150 Myr and up and down on a period of 70 Myr. Roughly, $sim 10$ km/s inwards for 50 Myr is 500pc. So nowhere near the GC at 8000pc.
– Rob Jeffries
8 hours ago
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The direction of solar motion is referred to as the solar apex. It is at around RA=18h28m and Dec=+30d in the constellation of Hercules (you can see a map on the page linked to). Note that this is the direction in which you would see the "star wars" effect of onrushing stars diverging from the apex point.
I cannot explain relative to a 2-dimensional cartoon of the Earth's orbit where that is. However, if you look at the map below (produced by Christian Ready), you can judge where the solar apex is with respect to the ecliptic plane (green line), which is roughly the path (drawn in your diagram) that the Earth takes around the Sun.
The very bright star Vega is reasonably close to this direction.
The Milky way centre is at RA=17h45m, Dec=-29d in the constellation of Sagittarius. In Galactic coordinates (see Best approximation for Sun's trajectory around galactic center? ) the Sun moves at about 10 km/s towards the Galactic centre, about 5 km/s faster than the average circular speed (which is itself about 220 km/s) of local stars in the tangential direction and 7 km/s upwards out of the Galactic plane.
The direction of solar motion is referred to as the solar apex. It is at around RA=18h28m and Dec=+30d in the constellation of Hercules (you can see a map on the page linked to). Note that this is the direction in which you would see the "star wars" effect of onrushing stars diverging from the apex point.
I cannot explain relative to a 2-dimensional cartoon of the Earth's orbit where that is. However, if you look at the map below (produced by Christian Ready), you can judge where the solar apex is with respect to the ecliptic plane (green line), which is roughly the path (drawn in your diagram) that the Earth takes around the Sun.
The very bright star Vega is reasonably close to this direction.
The Milky way centre is at RA=17h45m, Dec=-29d in the constellation of Sagittarius. In Galactic coordinates (see Best approximation for Sun's trajectory around galactic center? ) the Sun moves at about 10 km/s towards the Galactic centre, about 5 km/s faster than the average circular speed (which is itself about 220 km/s) of local stars in the tangential direction and 7 km/s upwards out of the Galactic plane.
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so, our direction of travel is "just" 60 degrees off from the center of the milky way? that means we are moving towards it? if our movement was split in two vectors, how fast are we moving towards the center vs perpendicular to it?
– Alonda
11 hours ago
@Alonda You have misunderstood what the solar apex is. It shows the velocity relative to local stars. I have added to the answer
– Rob Jeffries
9 hours ago
actually I realized that from reading the solar apex page. guess I didnt specify the question well enough. but your addition provided the exact answer I was after. my original question was much about which part of the sky is the "nose" of our solar system "spaceship", where we smash into new galactic debris.
– Alonda
9 hours ago
now I also find the vectors interesting... as I am not good at math, if I may ask... our solar system is in an elliptical orbit around the galaxy center, where we are currently moving towards our galactic perigee? how long will it take before we get there and how close to the galactic center will we get? and how far out is the apogee?
– Alonda
9 hours ago
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@Alonda The orbit is not Keplerian and not elliptical. Roughly, the sun is on a circular orbit with epicycles in and out with a period of 150 Myr and up and down on a period of 70 Myr. Roughly, $sim 10$ km/s inwards for 50 Myr is 500pc. So nowhere near the GC at 8000pc.
– Rob Jeffries
8 hours ago
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so, our direction of travel is "just" 60 degrees off from the center of the milky way? that means we are moving towards it? if our movement was split in two vectors, how fast are we moving towards the center vs perpendicular to it?
– Alonda
11 hours ago
@Alonda You have misunderstood what the solar apex is. It shows the velocity relative to local stars. I have added to the answer
– Rob Jeffries
9 hours ago
actually I realized that from reading the solar apex page. guess I didnt specify the question well enough. but your addition provided the exact answer I was after. my original question was much about which part of the sky is the "nose" of our solar system "spaceship", where we smash into new galactic debris.
– Alonda
9 hours ago
now I also find the vectors interesting... as I am not good at math, if I may ask... our solar system is in an elliptical orbit around the galaxy center, where we are currently moving towards our galactic perigee? how long will it take before we get there and how close to the galactic center will we get? and how far out is the apogee?
– Alonda
9 hours ago
1
@Alonda The orbit is not Keplerian and not elliptical. Roughly, the sun is on a circular orbit with epicycles in and out with a period of 150 Myr and up and down on a period of 70 Myr. Roughly, $sim 10$ km/s inwards for 50 Myr is 500pc. So nowhere near the GC at 8000pc.
– Rob Jeffries
8 hours ago
so, our direction of travel is "just" 60 degrees off from the center of the milky way? that means we are moving towards it? if our movement was split in two vectors, how fast are we moving towards the center vs perpendicular to it?
– Alonda
11 hours ago
so, our direction of travel is "just" 60 degrees off from the center of the milky way? that means we are moving towards it? if our movement was split in two vectors, how fast are we moving towards the center vs perpendicular to it?
– Alonda
11 hours ago
@Alonda You have misunderstood what the solar apex is. It shows the velocity relative to local stars. I have added to the answer
– Rob Jeffries
9 hours ago
@Alonda You have misunderstood what the solar apex is. It shows the velocity relative to local stars. I have added to the answer
– Rob Jeffries
9 hours ago
actually I realized that from reading the solar apex page. guess I didnt specify the question well enough. but your addition provided the exact answer I was after. my original question was much about which part of the sky is the "nose" of our solar system "spaceship", where we smash into new galactic debris.
– Alonda
9 hours ago
actually I realized that from reading the solar apex page. guess I didnt specify the question well enough. but your addition provided the exact answer I was after. my original question was much about which part of the sky is the "nose" of our solar system "spaceship", where we smash into new galactic debris.
– Alonda
9 hours ago
now I also find the vectors interesting... as I am not good at math, if I may ask... our solar system is in an elliptical orbit around the galaxy center, where we are currently moving towards our galactic perigee? how long will it take before we get there and how close to the galactic center will we get? and how far out is the apogee?
– Alonda
9 hours ago
now I also find the vectors interesting... as I am not good at math, if I may ask... our solar system is in an elliptical orbit around the galaxy center, where we are currently moving towards our galactic perigee? how long will it take before we get there and how close to the galactic center will we get? and how far out is the apogee?
– Alonda
9 hours ago
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@Alonda The orbit is not Keplerian and not elliptical. Roughly, the sun is on a circular orbit with epicycles in and out with a period of 150 Myr and up and down on a period of 70 Myr. Roughly, $sim 10$ km/s inwards for 50 Myr is 500pc. So nowhere near the GC at 8000pc.
– Rob Jeffries
8 hours ago
@Alonda The orbit is not Keplerian and not elliptical. Roughly, the sun is on a circular orbit with epicycles in and out with a period of 150 Myr and up and down on a period of 70 Myr. Roughly, $sim 10$ km/s inwards for 50 Myr is 500pc. So nowhere near the GC at 8000pc.
– Rob Jeffries
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1) and 2) The direction that the Sun is moving is known as the Solar Apex. This Wikipedia article shows a star map, so you can decide which star you want to say is closest. Solar Apex
3) The center of the Milky Way is toward the constellation of Sagittarius.
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1) and 2) The direction that the Sun is moving is known as the Solar Apex. This Wikipedia article shows a star map, so you can decide which star you want to say is closest. Solar Apex
3) The center of the Milky Way is toward the constellation of Sagittarius.
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1) and 2) The direction that the Sun is moving is known as the Solar Apex. This Wikipedia article shows a star map, so you can decide which star you want to say is closest. Solar Apex
3) The center of the Milky Way is toward the constellation of Sagittarius.
1) and 2) The direction that the Sun is moving is known as the Solar Apex. This Wikipedia article shows a star map, so you can decide which star you want to say is closest. Solar Apex
3) The center of the Milky Way is toward the constellation of Sagittarius.
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Relative to your drawing, the sun is moving north-ish:
The solar system is tilted about 60 degrees of the milky way plane, on which it's moving around like everyone else.
To know which star is closest, you'd have to define what "closest" mean. Are we setting a straight line and seeing if it hits any star? If a start is 50 light years away from that straight line and 100 light years away from the sun, is that closer than a start that's 5 light years away from line but 800 light years away from the sun?
The milky way center is to the right of the path the sun is moving on. But I don't know the location when earth is at winter solstice, and you didn't specify northern hemisphere's winter or southern hemisphere's. ;-)
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the animation is a bit confusing. after rob jeffries answer i thought Sol was travelling 60deg off from earths north pole, the animation seems to show the opposite? by closest star I meant, if you had a laser pointer aimed at the direction of travel, which star or stars would be visually closest to the beam. it seems vega is a good answer for me.
– Alonda
4 hours ago
My understanding is that the solar system is tilted 60 degrees from the milky way plane. I'm not sure relative to earth's north pole, since earth is also tilted itself relative to the solar system plane. But the animation doesn't show in which way earth is tilted either, so you can't say the animation is following or not the tilt relative to earth's north pole. ;)
– msb
4 hours ago
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I assume the planets orbit the sun counterclockwise... that would make the sun in the animation move in the direction of its south pole. unless my brain malfunctioned.
– Alonda
3 hours ago
Oh! That's a good point. Not what I understood from your first comment, but I see what you mean now. Either the sun is travelling south, or the animation is wrong, then either the plane is tilted 60 degrees to the wrong side or the planets are rotating to the wrong side. Good catch! I'm at work now, I'll do a better research later and answer this properly. I'm quite curious about it too. :D Rob Jeffries's answer is very informative, but not straight to the point relative to your questions, hopefully I'll get the straight answers we want. ;)
– msb
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Relative to your drawing, the sun is moving north-ish:
The solar system is tilted about 60 degrees of the milky way plane, on which it's moving around like everyone else.
To know which star is closest, you'd have to define what "closest" mean. Are we setting a straight line and seeing if it hits any star? If a start is 50 light years away from that straight line and 100 light years away from the sun, is that closer than a start that's 5 light years away from line but 800 light years away from the sun?
The milky way center is to the right of the path the sun is moving on. But I don't know the location when earth is at winter solstice, and you didn't specify northern hemisphere's winter or southern hemisphere's. ;-)
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the animation is a bit confusing. after rob jeffries answer i thought Sol was travelling 60deg off from earths north pole, the animation seems to show the opposite? by closest star I meant, if you had a laser pointer aimed at the direction of travel, which star or stars would be visually closest to the beam. it seems vega is a good answer for me.
– Alonda
4 hours ago
My understanding is that the solar system is tilted 60 degrees from the milky way plane. I'm not sure relative to earth's north pole, since earth is also tilted itself relative to the solar system plane. But the animation doesn't show in which way earth is tilted either, so you can't say the animation is following or not the tilt relative to earth's north pole. ;)
– msb
4 hours ago
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I assume the planets orbit the sun counterclockwise... that would make the sun in the animation move in the direction of its south pole. unless my brain malfunctioned.
– Alonda
3 hours ago
Oh! That's a good point. Not what I understood from your first comment, but I see what you mean now. Either the sun is travelling south, or the animation is wrong, then either the plane is tilted 60 degrees to the wrong side or the planets are rotating to the wrong side. Good catch! I'm at work now, I'll do a better research later and answer this properly. I'm quite curious about it too. :D Rob Jeffries's answer is very informative, but not straight to the point relative to your questions, hopefully I'll get the straight answers we want. ;)
– msb
3 hours ago
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Relative to your drawing, the sun is moving north-ish:
The solar system is tilted about 60 degrees of the milky way plane, on which it's moving around like everyone else.
To know which star is closest, you'd have to define what "closest" mean. Are we setting a straight line and seeing if it hits any star? If a start is 50 light years away from that straight line and 100 light years away from the sun, is that closer than a start that's 5 light years away from line but 800 light years away from the sun?
The milky way center is to the right of the path the sun is moving on. But I don't know the location when earth is at winter solstice, and you didn't specify northern hemisphere's winter or southern hemisphere's. ;-)
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Relative to your drawing, the sun is moving north-ish:
The solar system is tilted about 60 degrees of the milky way plane, on which it's moving around like everyone else.
To know which star is closest, you'd have to define what "closest" mean. Are we setting a straight line and seeing if it hits any star? If a start is 50 light years away from that straight line and 100 light years away from the sun, is that closer than a start that's 5 light years away from line but 800 light years away from the sun?
The milky way center is to the right of the path the sun is moving on. But I don't know the location when earth is at winter solstice, and you didn't specify northern hemisphere's winter or southern hemisphere's. ;-)
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the animation is a bit confusing. after rob jeffries answer i thought Sol was travelling 60deg off from earths north pole, the animation seems to show the opposite? by closest star I meant, if you had a laser pointer aimed at the direction of travel, which star or stars would be visually closest to the beam. it seems vega is a good answer for me.
– Alonda
4 hours ago
My understanding is that the solar system is tilted 60 degrees from the milky way plane. I'm not sure relative to earth's north pole, since earth is also tilted itself relative to the solar system plane. But the animation doesn't show in which way earth is tilted either, so you can't say the animation is following or not the tilt relative to earth's north pole. ;)
– msb
4 hours ago
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I assume the planets orbit the sun counterclockwise... that would make the sun in the animation move in the direction of its south pole. unless my brain malfunctioned.
– Alonda
3 hours ago
Oh! That's a good point. Not what I understood from your first comment, but I see what you mean now. Either the sun is travelling south, or the animation is wrong, then either the plane is tilted 60 degrees to the wrong side or the planets are rotating to the wrong side. Good catch! I'm at work now, I'll do a better research later and answer this properly. I'm quite curious about it too. :D Rob Jeffries's answer is very informative, but not straight to the point relative to your questions, hopefully I'll get the straight answers we want. ;)
– msb
3 hours ago
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the animation is a bit confusing. after rob jeffries answer i thought Sol was travelling 60deg off from earths north pole, the animation seems to show the opposite? by closest star I meant, if you had a laser pointer aimed at the direction of travel, which star or stars would be visually closest to the beam. it seems vega is a good answer for me.
– Alonda
4 hours ago
My understanding is that the solar system is tilted 60 degrees from the milky way plane. I'm not sure relative to earth's north pole, since earth is also tilted itself relative to the solar system plane. But the animation doesn't show in which way earth is tilted either, so you can't say the animation is following or not the tilt relative to earth's north pole. ;)
– msb
4 hours ago
1
I assume the planets orbit the sun counterclockwise... that would make the sun in the animation move in the direction of its south pole. unless my brain malfunctioned.
– Alonda
3 hours ago
Oh! That's a good point. Not what I understood from your first comment, but I see what you mean now. Either the sun is travelling south, or the animation is wrong, then either the plane is tilted 60 degrees to the wrong side or the planets are rotating to the wrong side. Good catch! I'm at work now, I'll do a better research later and answer this properly. I'm quite curious about it too. :D Rob Jeffries's answer is very informative, but not straight to the point relative to your questions, hopefully I'll get the straight answers we want. ;)
– msb
3 hours ago
1
1
the animation is a bit confusing. after rob jeffries answer i thought Sol was travelling 60deg off from earths north pole, the animation seems to show the opposite? by closest star I meant, if you had a laser pointer aimed at the direction of travel, which star or stars would be visually closest to the beam. it seems vega is a good answer for me.
– Alonda
4 hours ago
the animation is a bit confusing. after rob jeffries answer i thought Sol was travelling 60deg off from earths north pole, the animation seems to show the opposite? by closest star I meant, if you had a laser pointer aimed at the direction of travel, which star or stars would be visually closest to the beam. it seems vega is a good answer for me.
– Alonda
4 hours ago
My understanding is that the solar system is tilted 60 degrees from the milky way plane. I'm not sure relative to earth's north pole, since earth is also tilted itself relative to the solar system plane. But the animation doesn't show in which way earth is tilted either, so you can't say the animation is following or not the tilt relative to earth's north pole. ;)
– msb
4 hours ago
My understanding is that the solar system is tilted 60 degrees from the milky way plane. I'm not sure relative to earth's north pole, since earth is also tilted itself relative to the solar system plane. But the animation doesn't show in which way earth is tilted either, so you can't say the animation is following or not the tilt relative to earth's north pole. ;)
– msb
4 hours ago
1
1
I assume the planets orbit the sun counterclockwise... that would make the sun in the animation move in the direction of its south pole. unless my brain malfunctioned.
– Alonda
3 hours ago
I assume the planets orbit the sun counterclockwise... that would make the sun in the animation move in the direction of its south pole. unless my brain malfunctioned.
– Alonda
3 hours ago
Oh! That's a good point. Not what I understood from your first comment, but I see what you mean now. Either the sun is travelling south, or the animation is wrong, then either the plane is tilted 60 degrees to the wrong side or the planets are rotating to the wrong side. Good catch! I'm at work now, I'll do a better research later and answer this properly. I'm quite curious about it too. :D Rob Jeffries's answer is very informative, but not straight to the point relative to your questions, hopefully I'll get the straight answers we want. ;)
– msb
3 hours ago
Oh! That's a good point. Not what I understood from your first comment, but I see what you mean now. Either the sun is travelling south, or the animation is wrong, then either the plane is tilted 60 degrees to the wrong side or the planets are rotating to the wrong side. Good catch! I'm at work now, I'll do a better research later and answer this properly. I'm quite curious about it too. :D Rob Jeffries's answer is very informative, but not straight to the point relative to your questions, hopefully I'll get the straight answers we want. ;)
– msb
3 hours ago
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Closest to that direction is kind of a misnomer here... The sun's closest stellar neighbors are three stars in the Alpha Centauri system, moving at 18.6±1.64 km/s. We're moving at 19.1 km/s. But with expansion and other factors, I don't know, someone smarter can talk about "direction", which I'm assuming you mean "direction relative to the center of our galaxy".
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